I know its hard to accept but it can summed up in one phrase:
Its a cult.
they can do or say whatever they want and get away with it in the eyes of their membership because the membership believes they need the org to stay in touch with god.
one thing that bothers me greatly is the fact that they can change their policies and beliefs and just say its "new light" and no one bats an eyelid.. there are many scriptures such as isaiah 40:8 "the word of god will last to time indefinite.
" or hebrews 6:18 "it is impossible for god to lie".
if he is "spirit directing" the borg then there should be no need for new light..
I know its hard to accept but it can summed up in one phrase:
Its a cult.
they can do or say whatever they want and get away with it in the eyes of their membership because the membership believes they need the org to stay in touch with god.
by a split second rescuing our handicapped son from being pushed down the stairs by a flood of sisters rushing out to see as the drama had started.. the main offender being a special pioneer..
I read through these and really see a different side of conventions. As a teenager in a metropitain area it was always fun. We never had to travel and it was relaxing weekend where not much was expected... got to work with friends doing ‘grown up’ things and felt useful. I can definitely see the other side through some of these experiances... i never had a negative experiance (although they did grow tedious as i got older) until this year.
its not “bad” as far as some of the others expressed here but it left a bad taste for me personally. Ive long since stopped going to meetings although i still have a very few people who call me a friend dispite my beard and lack of care for the org. I ended up having to drop off my daughter at the DC this year (not my fsv choice but a long discussion). when i approached the venue in Richmond va i ended up having to carry her suit case to the coliseum. Besr in mind i spent a decade as an elder with these people. I spent longer as a ms. I gave talks in that very venue. I worked shoulder to shoulder with the clowns who are ‘attendants’ and was off and on the head of “obervation” (the jw word for security).
So as i walk up, carying my daighters suit case, dressed in a suit myself for what ots worth, i am immediately approached by a clown (who knows me!) and asked “do you need help finding a seat?” Bear in mind im outside. As in full on outside the venue, close to 500 feet from the first door. I roll my eyes as i know the jw vernacular and I Conducted the meeting that inteoduced that phrase many years ago. Dumbass. Whatever. I roll my eyes and say no and keep walking. He panics and pulls his phone out. This guy knows me, keep in mind.
I dont want to walk in and deal with this shit on any level. I try to txt my daighter and get her to come meet me and retrieve her suit case so i can get the hell on with my day... shes not responding. I managed to get a hold of someone who saw where they were sitting... sigh... ok fine. I walk in and start to head around to where i think i will find her... i am immediatetly surrounded by 7 “brothers” FIVE OF WHOM KNOW ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I give them a look of ‘really boys’? And one of them looks at the others and says “oh i know him, hes ok”. Meanwhile two other people dragging suitcases go by without a word....
i get the security thought process but for fuck sake but really... they know me. Personally. This was so goddamn necessary. And what a way to be welcoming to someone who may have been a visitor.... i admit it wasnt a big deal but to be surrounded and treated like a criminal or a terrorist...? I will never set foot at a DC again and if i can get my kids out of if i damn sure will. Fucking asshats
up until the very end, my mother refused blood.
it didn't matter if it was a blurred line or not, the bible says "no blood"!
i wonder if she was in the minority, in her thinking.
In answer to the original question i think its a case of more would accept than the org would like to admit but nowhere near as many as you would think.
here's mine... wat corp is flush with money.
there product is a hope--obey us and god might let you live.
gb knows they can say and change beliefs,doctrine, twist scripture without losing more then they gain.
*bangs head on wall* dear god... another another another thread yet again over and over .... how many times..
not to be overly harsh...but if you just left, what the hell were you thinking?
between 1995 and now, you never did an internet search of "jehovahs-witness" or "watchtower"?
good god.
Indeed people are strange. They join internet forums and troll people. People let themselves be trolled... its all very strange
not to be overly harsh...but if you just left, what the hell were you thinking?
between 1995 and now, you never did an internet search of "jehovahs-witness" or "watchtower"?
good god.
What dubsaid x2
not to be overly harsh...but if you just left, what the hell were you thinking?
between 1995 and now, you never did an internet search of "jehovahs-witness" or "watchtower"?
good god.
*yawn*
*see’s self righeous ex jw pat himself on the back for realizing it was cult and tries to make others feel bad for not thinking/seeing exactly as he does*
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
i asked the question on quora "how do jehovah's witnesses feel about the announcement that the public edition of the watchtower and awake!
magazine is being reduced to just 3 issues a year and the number of books, tracts, and online content are being discontinued?".
https://www.quora.com/how-do-jehovahs-witnesses-feel-about-the-announcement-that-the-public-edition-of-the-watchtower-and-awake-magazine-is-being-reduced-to-just-3-issues-a-year-and-the-number-of-books-tracts-and-online-content-are-being-discontinued.
That is exactly how every jw locally seems to feel. Zero regret
from reddit:.
this was an oral argument to dismiss the $4000/day fine.
both sides presented their arguments and now the judges will write an opinion (30 to 90 days).
Great job being there, taking notes and reporting back :)
this post was published today, some strange changes within jw.org.
https://jwvictims.org/2017/10/08/watchtowers-annual-meeting-announces-more-odd-decreases-in-literature-and-online-content/.
How about the old song that ended with “and work for its sanctification”..? All the old memories are invalidated