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  why won't legal department simply release all the secret pedophile files?

  by poopie in

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  what do you think there hiding?.

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  fish, i understand im asking a lot. I really do.... but what is the point regarding your last post? Once again you claim you understand that crimes against children are different and then you seem to say they arnt by posting information regarding what class felony they fall under.

  Broad classification under the penal code (ie felony vs misdemeanor ) isnt the same as the standard used to prove the alligation or the same as what evidance is acceptable in court etc etc. its a legal classification that generally denotes the type of punishment.

  how does that, in any way, related to children being able to defend themselves or having the ablity to report a crime against themselves or even the ablity to comprehend that a crime has been committed against them?

  You asked a seemingly simple question. I gave a simple answer showing that crimes against children are in fact different than any other crime and that our society reasonably expects them to be protected where they cannot protect themselves. I reasonably showed that this is different than any other crime and therefore requires that the confidentially of the clergy be breached.

  Do you have a point?
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  why won't legal department simply release all the secret pedophile files?

  by poopie in

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  You could not be more wrong. All crimes are not treated the same and the law absolutely makes distinctions between children and adults.

  You write several paragraphs asking how crimes against children are different than any other crime. I give a succinct answer and you write several more indignant pararaphs both stating that you know why child crimes are different but then simultaneously say you dont understand and that they are not different.

  Do you have a coherent point of view? Is there a way you can summarize your fragmented view without me having to wade through volumes of disjointed thoughts?
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  How often do elders have elders school?

  by Homer notsimpson in

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  i'm just wondering.

  how often do elders have elders school?

  ( is that what it's called?

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  Sigh... seriously? You really think the elders schools are designed to encourage the flock to donate in their wills?

  The so called km schools are usually every 3 years and are bore fests designed to encourage the local cult managers to enforce cult rules properly.

  As for the upcoming local cult middle manager training, wifi has posted the program. Its not the least thrilling

  *edited to add link to appropriate thread

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5737733991432192/april-19-2017-boe-re-kingdom-ministry-school-2018-service-year?page=2#!#5141589846392832
  
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  why won't legal department simply release all the secret pedophile files?

  by poopie in

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  Let me help you fisher..

  crimes against children are indeed very different than other offense you listed. Children are unable to speak up and fend for themselves. As defenseless members of society they benefit from special protection and damn rightly so.

  As an adult, if someone abuses you sexually you are (generally) able to decide how to handle it. If you are defrauded you can decided to report it or not. Etc etc.

  children cannot.

  I agree there are ethical issues and i dont want any church reporting on confidential minutia, sexual dalliances or even income tax fraud. When it comes to those unable to speak for themselves there is a clear obligation.
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  why won't legal department simply release all the secret pedophile files?

  by poopie in

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  Fair enough john
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  why won't legal department simply release all the secret pedophile files?

  by poopie in

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  John, please keep the totality of my statement in mind. I said the reason they arnt convicted is because the wt pressures members not to report the potential crimes. In the past there was HUGE pressure, up to and including being df’d for reporting. The direction from the org has softened on that but there is still a LOT of old school thinking on the matter still prevalent.

  Locally here in DC, a “sister” (a grown woman in her 40’s) assaulted a young woman (18 years old). The parents of the 18 year old called the police. A talk was given condemning them for calling the police. The old guard thinking is strong. Local cult leaders hold to the thinking not to impugn the cults reputation.

  John, dont ever mistake my pragmatic opinion on the situation as excuses or support for the org or org policy.
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  why won't legal department simply release all the secret pedophile files?

  by poopie in

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  Slim, your vastly overestimating “prominent elders”. Thats pure local politics. No such thing in the big picture of the org. And in order for this to have any significant impact the names or names being protected would have to be branch level.

  its very dicey legal ground. If they release lists of suspected pedo’s they also potentially release information regarding victims. They make it easy for 1+1 identity of victims who may not want that information made public.

  Bear in mind, as much as it wont be popular to say, these pedos are only suspected pedos, not convicted in a court of law. Of course one of the reasons they arnt convicted in court is due to wt pressure, so round and round we go. My end point being, It would be unconscionable to have potentially innocent people branded as pedo’s in the release of wt names. Cult star chamber proceedings are a joke as countless experiances show, many recorded right here on this forum. Just because someone was df for being a pedo dosent make it true. Which is exactly why the wt has no business investigating it...

  and as for the ARC... it was a toothless dog from the start. People are asking how the wt will respond.. by doing exactly nothing. Why would they??? The ARC has zero authority. None. The ARC can recommend all day and piss and moan and write reports and it amounts to nothing. They have zero authority to compel any change. Any good that comes from it will be as a result of publicity and the spot light that was shown.. but without legal teeth the wt is laughing.
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  Even Ron Jeremy Is Accused of Sexual Abuse

  by minimus in

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  what is this world coming to?.

  it seems like everyone is being accused of sexual improprieties!

  even porn stars like the hedgehog “.

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  Buddha, i would have owned it (if it was worth looking at).... “hell yea i am”
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  Humans can have answers to any questions

  by venus in

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  god would not say: “you should not eat from the tree of good and bad, which would make you like me” because through jesus he said: ‘you must become like me by imitating the qualities of sun whose only concern is giving (of light and warmth) which means having no expectation of anything from anybody’ (mathew 5:44-48) .

  this also means we should have no human teachers because we can have answer to any questions by ourselves, through inference.

  (pro 25:2) how to go about inferring?

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  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ifaoKZfQpdA
  
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  My Personal Study

  by The Real Edward Gentry in

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  my current personal study is about the resurection.besides the nine well known resurections (the son of the zaraphath widow, the son of the shulamite woman, the man whose body touched elisha's bones, lazarus, jesus, son of the widow nain, the daughter of jairus, dorcas and eutychus).

  there was enoch who god 'transfered' so he wouldn't see death and elijah who god took away in a flaming chariot hidden in a whilwind!

  as well as these there were the holy men ofjerusalem resurrected at the same time as jesus.

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  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ifaoKZfQpdA