You can always trust Google Translate to screw up its translations. I know for a fact it commonly screws up its Russian (and other Slavic) translations a lot.
ivanatahan
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Google Translate has an attitude
by MaxTan inso i came across this today when i was trying to translate something to russian.
also, i did not know where to post this other than jokes and humor.... so according to google translate, jehovah in russian is "lord".
the name itself was not available in alternative translations either.
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How did your close JWs react when they found out you know TTATT?
by ivanatahan ini'm not sure if this topic has ever been posted (surely, i believe it has), but it would be interesting to revive such a topic and hear your stories!.
when my parents heard my first rant (after they told me to be home schooled when i was caught kissing a girl) they entered into a long depression that continues to this day.
my father suffers knowing his once amazing family is now divided, and my mother is equally angry.
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ivanatahan
I'm not sure if this topic has ever been posted (surely, I believe it has), but it would be interesting to revive such a topic and hear your stories!
When my parents heard my first rant (after they told me to be home schooled when I was caught kissing a girl) they entered into a long depression that continues to this day. My father suffers knowing his once amazing family is now divided, and my mother is equally angry. My mother is cracking down on me, infringing in parts of my life she never got involved in. She even told me to move out of the house (I'm not even of legal age yet) once when I was falling asleep at a Sunday meeting (?) and even enforced it the next morning. I used the excuse that I was doing my laundry to pack my bags with clean clothes before moving out (my girlfriend's family was willing to take me in if anything happened). Fortunately, she calmed down before I could leave, but she's still being really snoopy. My dad is still very depressed and since my sister is moving he's gotten worse. I wish it didn't have to end up like this, but ideally things will get better.
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Participate In The EX-JW Personality Test!
by C0ntr013r infirst of all; i must admit that i'm not a huge fan of putting people in boxes like this, it is not an exact science.
but i still think the data can be quite interesting and i intend to collect it and share it in a structured way with you guys.
so without future ado here are the details.. link to test: .
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ivanatahan
Born in: Yes
Personality type as JW: ENTP (The debater quality in me, which I still have, led me to question the nonsense known as the Jehovah's Witnesses cult. I still consider myself an ENTP.)
Personality type Ex-JW: ENFP40% Extraverted
25% Intuitive
34% Feeling
38% Prospecting
64% Turbulent
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JW UN Rumor
by ivanatahan inyes, i have returned.. a short recap of major events since my inactivity began: i finally revealed to my parents that i do not believe the same thing they believe in (after i was caught smooching my girlfriend by a family of good-for-nothing pieces of human feces), and of course they view themselves as failed parents who were unable to brainwash their children.
that is, of course, the reason why they are much more controlling over what i do in my life now (my mom even tried having a "bible study" with me).
i told them everything and i was unable to dent their jw imposed mind force field, while also exposing a clear jw misunderstanding of probability, evolution, history, logic/reason, and the big bang theory.. in a conversation i had with my mother a few weeks back (i also heard this rumor before, but my mother told me it again), she mentioned how the un held a summit of all religions and when the jws presented themselves and mentioned their preaching work warning of the coming un ban on religion (referring to an international organization who can't even prevent genocide, much less impose human rights), a un official came up to the jw who presented the cult and told him to "speed up the preaching work", because they plan on doing the ban soon.. it saddens me to think of how ignorant jws are in relation to the principles upon which the un was founded and being unaware that the un at least has some sense as to not ban religion, but this rumor, as ridiculous as it is, needs to be put at rest.
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ivanatahan
I used to hear that back in the seventies, so it's been around a while. It's nonsense, just something to get people scared. Did you know the Watchtower belonged to the UN for a while? When they got caught they tried to pretend it was so they could use their library, but you don't need to join to use the library. It came out in the nineties, they eventually dropped their NGO (non government organization ) membership. This was after they condemned@ the UN for years calling it the scarlet colored beast in revelation.
Yeah, I've known that for a bit. It's not that shocking to know it's been around for so long, but I wonder how I could convince people of this.
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JW UN Rumor
by ivanatahan inyes, i have returned.. a short recap of major events since my inactivity began: i finally revealed to my parents that i do not believe the same thing they believe in (after i was caught smooching my girlfriend by a family of good-for-nothing pieces of human feces), and of course they view themselves as failed parents who were unable to brainwash their children.
that is, of course, the reason why they are much more controlling over what i do in my life now (my mom even tried having a "bible study" with me).
i told them everything and i was unable to dent their jw imposed mind force field, while also exposing a clear jw misunderstanding of probability, evolution, history, logic/reason, and the big bang theory.. in a conversation i had with my mother a few weeks back (i also heard this rumor before, but my mother told me it again), she mentioned how the un held a summit of all religions and when the jws presented themselves and mentioned their preaching work warning of the coming un ban on religion (referring to an international organization who can't even prevent genocide, much less impose human rights), a un official came up to the jw who presented the cult and told him to "speed up the preaching work", because they plan on doing the ban soon.. it saddens me to think of how ignorant jws are in relation to the principles upon which the un was founded and being unaware that the un at least has some sense as to not ban religion, but this rumor, as ridiculous as it is, needs to be put at rest.
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ivanatahan
Yes, I have returned.
A short recap of major events since my inactivity began: I finally revealed to my parents that I do not believe the same thing they believe in (after I was caught smooching my girlfriend by a family of good-for-nothing pieces of human feces), and of course they view themselves as failed parents who were unable to brainwash their children. That is, of course, the reason why they are much more controlling over what I do in my life now (my mom even tried having a "Bible Study" with me). I told them everything and I was unable to dent their JW imposed mind force field, while also exposing a clear JW misunderstanding of probability, evolution, history, logic/reason, and the Big Bang Theory.
In a conversation I had with my mother a few weeks back (I also heard this rumor before, but my mother told me it again), she mentioned how the UN held a summit of all religions and when the JWs presented themselves and mentioned their preaching work warning of the coming UN ban on religion (referring to an international organization who can't even prevent genocide, much less impose human rights), a UN official came up to the JW who presented the cult and told him to "speed up the preaching work", because they plan on doing the ban soon.
It saddens me to think of how ignorant JWs are in relation to the principles upon which the UN was founded and being unaware that the UN at least has some sense as to NOT ban religion, but this rumor, as ridiculous as it is, needs to be put at rest. Have you guys heard of this, and if so, do you know any background information?
Thanks!
Pope Ioannes Atahan
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Influence of Death in the Mind
by ivanatahan inmost meetings and congregations stress the idea that jehovah's witnesses will live forever on a paradise earth.
most jws are always "comforting" others about how death is only temporary.
then you get those jws who are scared of death.
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ivanatahan
Most meetings and congregations stress the idea that Jehovah's Witnesses will live forever on a paradise earth. Most JWs are always "comforting" others about how death is only temporary. Then you get those JWs who are scared of death. Why? Don't they believe that they'll live forever in "Paradise?"
I personally never truly feared death. I accepted it. Even as a believer, I accepted death as an end, even if it meant I could get a "one way ticket to paradise." As I matured, I really did start to accept death as an experience nobody can explain, even JWs. I know my mother is scared of death, and so are so many other JWs. They don't accept death as the end of it all, and so they resort to cults such as the Jehovah's Witnesses, since it assures them they'll live forever in paradise.
The same is true for many people world wide, and it's obvious people who truly follow a religion such as Christianity most likely do so because they don't accept that death is the end. They want something more after their journey in this world. So could it be that people such as ourselves have accepted death as the end, and so don't need a religion or any set of beliefs to comfort us? I feel stupid for asking, but maybe some of us haven't realized this.
I thus feel acceptance of death is the basis for sound and logical reasoning in relation to how we live life. Those who accept death as the end live life as they want, fully aware they may die tomorrow. They don't worry about what happens after death and don't base their life philosophy off of any ideas nobody can prove. Who could argue? Sadly, most people don't want to live life like that because then they're admitting to defeat when they die.
I'd agree religion exists to comfort those who fear life. They fear death and all the troubles they experience. This sounds very harsh and cold and should be taken with a grain of salt, but my more extremist side must admit that anyone who feels that they need to be comforted and assured of made up beliefs about the troubles in life and death really needs to man up and accept that there's no way to know what happens after death and accept that life is the way it is because that's the way the world works. It's the unfortunate (as some may say) side effect of evolution.
Naturally, I accept people of all kinds, and look passed their beliefs because I know for a fact I can't disprove any god and it would be unwise to call someone's beliefs stupid, even though I may have done so in this post.
I feel I've pointed out a fairly obvious and possibly controversial point, but if anyone has any thoughts, I'd like to hear them.
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Now Even JW Men Are Going To Die At The Big A
by OneFingerSalute inso this weekend there was a part about not following jesus at a distance.
the speaker made a big point of stating that any baptized jw male who was not either appointed ms/elder, or at the very least "reaching out" actively, was in fact following jesus at a distance.
he said that the only way to live through the big a was to follow jesus closely.
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ivanatahan
Death,....that's all they've got to threaten people with? Instant destruction?
How about a precarious life of never knowing if or when I might lose my children due to a disfellowshipping? How about a life of being forced to do stuff I don't want to do, and having to do it CONSTANTLY, RELENTLESSLY? How about a life where I can't speak my thoughts and opinions for fear of being 'turned in'? How about a life where myself and my children are supposed to follow one infinitesimally defined path, unable to freely express our individualities, having to stick to someone else's definition of 'proper' OR ELSE?
Oh, you can't threaten you will do this to me, because that is what you ARE, that is what living with you IS ACTUALLY LIKE. Well, that's worse than instant destruction. And you will NEVER be in control of my life again. Your threats of death are nothing compared to what living under your control was like. And I'm out of it. So death is all you've got? Youve got nothing.When I read this, I imagined Winston Smith telling this to O'brien during on of his torture sessions.
This really spoke to my heart, and shared this comment with my sister, who is also aware of TTATT and expresses her disapproval more-so than I do. Indeed, it's true that death means nothing when the alternative is essentially a life of being a puppet with no control and the suppression of individuality. I agree with you, I'd rather die than live like that, much less forever with others who are fake. "You can only find true friends in the organization." Hah!
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What should I ask Richard Dawkins tonight?
by the comet inmy amazing wife surprised me and bought tickets for us to hear richard dawkins tonight!
he is giving a lecture with someone and then they are having a q&a session.
anyone have any suggestions for questions i could ask?
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ivanatahan
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God's Spirit
by Hold Me-Thrill Me inwhat is god's spirit?
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i ask this of those who believe in god.
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ivanatahan
If so, then why is it that scientists do not loudly oppose the abortion of fetuses with multiple genetic defects? After all there could be a new forward step in the making. Why does science in practice not support survival of the fittest and oppose vaccination in order that the species may be enhanced. I can only assume it is because when it comes to evolution science speaks out of one side of its mouth but in practice out of the other.
Perhaps because humans, as a species, have evolved enough to care for each other, which ultimately means they have the morality that convinces them that killing other humans for the sake of evolving the human race is not exactly the nicest thing to do. Believing in evolution based on the mountains of evidence doesn't mean you should support the continued evolution of the human race at the cost of other humans' lives, it simply means you understand how life forms became the way they are today based on the information that is available.
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Dating
by Indy98 ini have been brought up as a jehovah witness and want to date this boy who isn't a jehovah's witness.
we have talked about the trials we could go through and i was wondering because i am a unbaptised publisher could i date him without any consequences?
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ivanatahan
Only if you want to be judged by every JW that you know, especially behind your back. It would probably thus strain any relations you have with any JWs.