Posts by coalize

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What Was Your Body of Elders Like?

by minimus in

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were they pretty much a good group of men?

we're they jerks?.

coalize

Me, I think I had chance about the BOE I had, 15 years ago, in a city, that perhaps some knows, Rheims, in france, the capital of the Champagne..

There I had two elders who was scientifics (high level), one rich like hell (champagne producer) and one who was a lawyer (high level)... These three elders rules all the another, who, honestly, just obey..

I don't know how it's now, but last time I ask my parents, they sais that they all gone... or because they really up in the organisation (one of the scientifics seems to be now in brooklyn and driving all thje scientific article of WT) or because they leave

For the one in brooklyn, we're the sama age, and we drank so much together when we was young.. I know the only thing he had in mind was to be a ruler of the GB.... he will succeed, I know him... if you see a french in the GB one day, it's him! :D

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The fight about the corpse of Moses

by coalize in

the new watchtower, 15th february 2015, p6 6, say :.

the bible writer jude recorded an example from jesus prehuman existence.

(read jude 9.

coalize

Some believe since there was a discussion about demons earlier in the chapter and Jesus was quoted as saying this that it was referring to another book where by Solomon could control demons and used them to help build the temple

I didn't know nothing about that, but you're totally right. I made some research and I found it comes from the testament of Solomon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testament_of_Solomon)

We can read and downlad this apocryphal book in pdf here : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1euYzqg8kkpVWdQNFJ2YkliN0U/view?usp=sharing

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so, what ARE society 'approved' jobs anyway?

by sowhatnow in

obviously they feel a window washer job is a job anyone can do anywhere in he world .

and makes great money, yea right.. so what are all those 'approved jobs?'.

add to the list of any and all building skills, cleaning type jobs.

coalize

in this area there are 5 elders that are firefighters

A JW firefighter ? This show that this kind of things depends of the area!

In France a JW can't be firefighter, even a voluntary one, because here firefighters depends of the ministery of defense... Then it's considered like to work for the army...

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Sunday NY Times: How ISIS drives Muslims from Islam.

by Balaamsass2 in

230 comments.

sundayreview | op-ed columnist.

how isis drives muslims from islam.

coalize

Internet, is in the same time a great tool for all the preachers and a great tools for the freedom.

After it depends a lot about the credulity of the people who receive the information

I know, I understood one day I was a very naive, credulous guy..

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so, what ARE society 'approved' jobs anyway?

by sowhatnow in

obviously they feel a window washer job is a job anyone can do anywhere in he world .

and makes great money, yea right.. so what are all those 'approved jobs?'.

add to the list of any and all building skills, cleaning type jobs.

coalize

i sense a lot of disdain for labor intensive jobs on this site

I don't think someone here have disdain for these jobs. But have a disdain for the WT-view on these jobs like the only one WT-approved..

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so, what ARE society 'approved' jobs anyway?

by sowhatnow in

obviously they feel a window washer job is a job anyone can do anywhere in he world .

and makes great money, yea right.. so what are all those 'approved jobs?'.

add to the list of any and all building skills, cleaning type jobs.

coalize

Removal man, but dress in polo shirt, trousers with pants and loafer

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The fight about the corpse of Moses

by coalize in

the new watchtower, 15th february 2015, p6 6, say :.

the bible writer jude recorded an example from jesus prehuman existence.

(read jude 9.

coalize

WTBTS is unable to come up with any logical explanation without a total revision of it's understanding of death (the spirit/soul), heaven and other places of spiritual abode.

To not have to handle with this kind of revision, i'm sure they will prefer to put an issue on the list of the canonical books they accept, than to change something in their dogma. Like that they'll be able to explain, why Paul is talking about Jannes and Jambres too..

But they can't... Because if they accept new books or taking away another from the WTBTS-agreed-canonical-books, then they will be forced to change their dogma by the way!

They will continue to juggle standing on an egg...

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a dude explains the entire bible--from facebook

by bigmac in

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coalize

Excellent...

For the french-speaking people who want to share that, I already made the translation... You don't have to do it again :

La Bible. Version Courte.

GENESE

Dieu : Très bien, vous deux, ne faîtes pas une seule chose. Pour le reste, amusez-vous.
Adam et Eve : Okay
Satan : Vous devriez faire cette chose.
Adam et Eve : Okay
Dieu : Que s'est-il passé ?
Adam et Eve : On a fait la chose!
Dieu : Putain, les gars...

LE RESTE DE l'AT

Dieu : Vous êtes mon peuple, et vous ne devez pas faire les choses.
Peuple : Okay
Dieu : Que s'est-il passé ?
Peuple : On a fait les choses.
Dieu : Putain, les gars...

LES EVANGILES
Jésus : Je suis le fils de Dieu, et même si vous avez fait les choses, Moi et le Père vous aimons toujours et nous voulons que vous viviez. Ne refaîtes plus les choses.
Peuple sauvé : Okay! Merci!
Les pharisiens : Bof! Nous l'avons jamais vu faire les choses, mais je suis sûr qu'il les fait en cachette.
Jesus : Non, je n'ai jamais fait les choses
Les pharisiens : On va néanmoins t'envoyer au tribunal pour avoir fait les choses
Pilate : As-tu fait les choses ?
Jésus : Non
Pilate : Il a pas fait les choses
Les pharisiens : Tues-le quand-même
Pilate : Okay
Jesus : Putain, les gars...

EPITRES DE PAUL - TOME I

Peuple : On a fait les choses
Paul : Jesus vous aime quand-même et pour son amour vous devez arrêter de faire les choses
Peuple : Okay!

EPITRES DE PAUL - TOME II

Peuple : On a fait les choses quand même
Paul : Putain, les gars...

REVELATION

Jean : Quand Jésus reviendra, il tuera tout ceux qui font les choses. Pendant ce temps, arrêtez de faire les choses.

FIN

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The fight about the corpse of Moses

by coalize in

the new watchtower, 15th february 2015, p6 6, say :.

the bible writer jude recorded an example from jesus prehuman existence.

(read jude 9.

coalize

The opinion of the WTBTS is that Jude isn't quoting from the Book of Enoch. They suggest that the writer of the Book of Enoch may have been quoting from the book of Jude

But that doesn't explain one second why the christians was already aware about the fight when Jude talked about that

or that both writers could have been quoting from a third source.

But that doesn't explain why the third source is lost! And it doesn't answer at all at the two questions I asked.

But we're used now with the WTBTS-explanations! :)

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The fight about the corpse of Moses

by coalize in

the new watchtower, 15th february 2015, p6 6, say :.

the bible writer jude recorded an example from jesus prehuman existence.

(read jude 9.

coalize

Oh! Thank you for the very interresting links!

It has also been supposed that Jude is quoting an apocryphal book that contained this account

Very strange ! An inspired apostle quoting an apocryphal book ?

Jude didn't know this book was apocryphal? Because he was inspired by God, it would mean that God himself didn't know that book was apocryphal?

Two things are possible then : Or the missing book wasn't apocryphal, or the book of Jude is apocryphal!

Then if this missing book wasn't apocriphal, why God let a part of his Godly Words been lost ?

And if Jude is apocryphal, why God let a part of his Godly Words been false ?