How JW can teach in the same time :
1. it will be an everlasting life on earth with body of flesh
2. the body of flesh is naturally corruptible?
The two are not incompatible?
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Everlasting Life on Paradise Earth - My musings of why it cannot be true
by leaving_quietly inactually, just one musing.. there are a number of scriptures that wtbts uses to support their doctrine of everlasting life on paradise earth.
the vast majority come from the hebrew scriptures.
using just one verse, i believe i can disprove this doctrine quite soundly.. the verse is john 6:68.. simon peter answered him: lord, whom shall we go away to?
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Proud JW.ORG Photos everyone needs to see! The Watchtower Sanctified the Internet for Preaching!
by Trailer Park Pioneer ini am proud to be a jehovah's witness in the last days, what religion has done this much to proclaim the message about the organization?
other religions are preaching about jesus, some wear the crucifixion, other's wear shirts with fishes but we wear shirts with jw.org!
no other religion has our courage!.
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oh my god! Not the bus!!!! And it looks to be in France! Grrrrrrrrrr...
In the same time, they just copy that :
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then now 10% of the amount of the Anointed still alive ?
Then we must conclude that the "soon" is more late than last year?
The JW invented the date "more you are close, more you are far"! Genius!!!
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Site issues: Jan 02 Update (Sign In)
by Simon ini've deployed a fix for people affected by sign-in issues caused by having multiple accounts associated with the same email address.
here's how to activate the fix:.
you must attempt to sign in using the email address associated with your account (not a username) and must have access to that mailbox.. if there are multiple accounts associated with the email address then you will be shown a warning message with the option to have an email sent to repair your account.. the email will contain a link to a page showing all the accounts associated with the same email address and allow you to select the one you want to be active (it will disassociate all the other accounts from the email address).. once you have completed the process then you should be able to sign in as normal.
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hello Simon!
Very good job! I really like this new rendering!
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Recommended Lodging List
by piztjw injust a few instructions orders from mother about motels.. please use only hotels that appear on the recommended lodging list.
(one page, with only one motel locally).
one nights deposit (credit card, money order, etc.,) is required, and should be sent to the hotel within ten days of making your reservation.
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I don't know if it was worldwide the same, but when it was about the list of the hotels, my parents always had hotels at 25 miles of the convention. The elders, always had the hotels close to the convention! -
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Ever tried "Dry January"? Join Ms. OM & me for a 30 day liver vacation!
by Open mind inthere are a few things i picked up from watchtowerism that i still find value in.
(although, i could have easily picked them up elsewhere.).
one of these is the 30-day test to abstain from all booze.. .
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My liver need a "Dry 2015".... -
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Have we been visited by alien's?
by crazyguy1 inthere is a tribe in west african called the dogon, their mythology states that their gods came from a dark star that orbits around sirius.
they claim this star went nova then condensed so that its now super dense.
they have on their cave walls drawings of jupiter and its 4 moons and saturn with its rings.
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It's the same kind of bullshit, with the sumerian civilization... The Annunakis, the god of sumer, some now think that in fact it xas an alien civilization...
Classic ufology stories...
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The Noah's ark : What a nonsense!
by coalize in1. a shitty start we don't have to wait more than 4 verses of genesis 6 to put our feet in a big stinky bullshit :.
consequently, jehovah saw that mans wickedness was great on the earth and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only bad all the time.
jehovah regretted that he had made men on the earth, and his heart was saddened.
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Let's continue...
3. Animals and logistics
And again, bad start with a rambling God, incapable to repeat three times the same directive!
And bring into the ark two of every sort of living creature in order to preserve them alive with you, a male and a female; of the flying creatures according to their kinds, the domestic animals according to their kinds, and all creeping animals of the ground according to their kinds, two of each will go in there to you to preserve them alive. (Genesis 6:19-20)
You must take with you every kind of clean animal by sevens, the male and its mate; and of every animal that is not clean just two, the male and its mate; also of the flying creatures of the sky by sevens, male and female, to preserve their offspring alive over all the earth. (Genesis 7:2,3)
They went in with every wild animal according to its kind, and every domestic animal according to its kind, and every creeping animal of the earth according to its kind, and every flying creature according to its kind, every bird, every winged creature. They kept going to Noah inside the ark, two by two, of every sort of flesh that has the breath of life. (Genesis 7:14,15)
It's totally crazy! One time it speaks about species, the another time it speaks about animals, another time about "every sort of living creature". One time you need two of each, the another time seven for the birds and the pure animals, And at this moment of the bible story nobody have explained what's pure, what's not!
And you need one male and one female. And how you do with the hermaphrodits snails? And the animals who change of sex in their lifetime? How Noah made for the travel in ark don't become YMCA party?
Then as usually, God is a big senile, as well as a blockhead in animal anatomy...
Eh wait, I think about that : Are all the animals of the creation able to enter in the magic barge?
To answer this question, we must to calculate the free space of the ark. To do so, there is 4 methods :
1. The method of the creationnist who hate mathematics : "The ark was very big like three soccer field on three level". Ok! Let's continue with highly scientific units! To make it more clear, i will now count in my granfather garden. Oh, no, let's count in toilet paper leaves...
2. The method of the creationnist without scruples : "Of course it was enough big, all the animals entered"
3. The method of the creationnist who like mathematics, but not architecture : It's easy, the bible says the ark is 138 x 23 x 14 meters = 44436 meters cube, that's a lot! OMG, the Noah's ark was build totally with air!
4. The method normal : The ark is made with walls and stairs, it can look like this :
I don't want to boring everybody with space calcul, but, the structure of the ark take around 25% linimum of the space. Then the remaining space is really less than 35 000 meters cube.
Ok, now we have calculated and overevaluated the space, we have to calculate the number of animals we have to put inside!
On wikipedia (please don't laugh, some people take the bible like a encyclopedical source) we find that it exists between 5 and 30 millions of living species and only 2 million are scientificlly described. Because it's my day of gift, let's forget the 25 millions of species we don't know, and let's assume only 2 millions of species entered in the ark. It makes 4 000 000 of animals to enter in the ark (they enter in couple). It's less than chinese, but it's really too much for the ark!
Even the more crazy of the creationnist, understand very well it's not possible. Then they find a lot of funny stratagems to decrease this number
Stratagem n°1 : Without the fishes.: "Eh guys, let's say the fishes wasn't in the ark, like that it let more places to put inside the fat ass of the elephants! And a fish, it's not a little water who make him die!"
Eh, it's not great to say the contrary of God, muthafuckin heretic creationnists!
So He wiped every living thing from the surface of the earth, including man, animals, creeping animals, and the flying creatures of the sky. They were all wiped off the earth;+ only Noah and those with him in the ark survived. (Genesis 7:23)
And even if God allow that, the fishes can't live in alln the waters! Let's try to put a freshwater fish in the ocean, and you will see him to swim backstroke like a myopath! The same thing with fishes of ocean. With so much rain, le salt level of the water will change fast, and the poor fishes will die very fast! And don't forget that the water and the earth mix... Let's try to mix a glass of earth in three glass of water to recreate your own see of deluge, and put your goldenfish in it to see how many time he survive!
Stratagem n° 2 : The Kawaii stratagem : "Noah didn't had to take adults animals. He just had to takes babies and eggs, "
Ok, but even if we divide the size by 10, 20 or 50, It's not enough space for the 4 000 000 of babies and eggs! And the travel of Noah will last 371 days! They don't grow? And the babies have more chance to die than adults. When we know, that if one baby die, it's the end of the species!
Stratagem n°3 : The Baramin stratagem : "You will laugh, when God said species, he talk about the big families of animals, like the canides (dogs, wolf and garous). By families, like that, we arrive at 8 000 species and it fit perfectly!"
Wait a minute! They are saying that all the animals we know today, have EVOLVED from a little group of species in 4 000 years? What a scam!
They must to call a godly version of evolution to make believable a biblical legend, claimed as a contrariness of the evolution! Amazing! I would cry if I wasn't freeze-dried!
(to be continued...)
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The fight about the corpse of Moses
by coalize inthe new watchtower, 15th february 2015, p6 6, say :.
the bible writer jude recorded an example from jesus prehuman existence.
(read jude 9.
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Thank you phizzy!
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JW Flash Mob
by Listener ina flash mob is defined as a large public gathering at which people perform an unusual or seemingly random act and then disperse.. jws are now in on the act and were doing this in bath on unsuspecting convention delegates during their tours after the convention.
they did this on at least three seperate occassions.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hmrqr-k4hq.
here's another one, not so public though.
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rebel8 : I thought that at first too, but did you see the ages of the singers in the first video? That really struck me. I can't believe these are the same people who lived through 1975, 80s, end of the century w/o the preaching work ending as predicted, 2014, etc., and then they do this. I guess that shows the power of the cult. They will go along with anything, I guess.
Yes, at first sight.
But one sure is sure, it's not the old women who had this idea, but young elders... and these old people, just follow blindly, like usually...
I can bet, If you ask them, they will answer : "It's Jehovah's idea"
That's why GB will lose grasp little by little, and will have to make concessions in a lot of subject the next years... if thet doesn't want to loose all their power on the "sheeps"
