Posts by azor

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On respect for the belief of others. Sorry for the long post

by StarTrekAngel in

i am inclined to start this thread in response to some comments made in other threads.

i have been coming around these forum for quite some time now so whatever you find in here is not just related to something someone may have said this week.

it can go months back as well.. i have seen many who claim to respect the belief of others but when it comes down to applying it into practice, things take a whole different tune.

azor

Pardon me if this has already been covered. The problem is the post itself. Belief of any kind does not merit respect. Jdub beliefs do not merit respect. KKK beliefs do not merit respect. Covering women in hijabs doesn't either.

I love this forum because beliefs are openly challenged. One of my favorite quotes now is "I respect you to much as a person (I would add as a member of my species) to respect your beliefs. If I'm wrong I should change. If anyone is and doesn't that does not merit respect. It merits shame and ridicule so this nonsense will stop.

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Where are you from?

by BeautifulMind in

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i know we are all anonymous for our own personal reasons, so i understand if you would rather not say.

but if you don't mind sharing that would be cool.

i currently live in georgia, usa.

azor

Los Angeles, California.

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Mass Mailer to Congregations & Branches - Those who can't disassociate

by thedepressedsoul in

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/491270004/mass-disassociation-pact?size=10&page=15.

the topic above got me thinking.

everyone here can't send a disassociation letter due to family or other reasons.

azor

Blues brother. I doubt the elders know. I was an elder less than a year ago and I had no idea about any of this. Once I knew I was floored with the amount of lies from jworg. One of them principally being that "apostates" are liars, manipulative, and so on.

One of the things I told my siblings as I was walking away was that what fear does light have of darkness. If it's the truth it has nothing to fear.

I for one would like to participate. I have hundreds of addresses in the socal area mainly.

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All It Takes Is ONE!

by John Aquila in

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ive been reading all these posts about bethelites and special pioneers being kicked out in the street and being forced to get a job to provide for themselves..

and im trying to put myself in their situation and feel the emotions that must be going through their mind.

what if my wife and i both dropped out of school to pioneer and got married at 18. and what if we were very faithful in listening to everything the organization says.

azor

I've said this before. If I had lost my son due to his leukemia diagnosis need for blood and found out what I now know after.

Theres a saying "hell hath no fury as a mother's wrath." I'm not a mother but I am a parent. I would have taken as many of the leaders out and then myself. I called under a pseudonym and told service desk at Brooklyn that.

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Why don't you do anything?

by WireRider in

i'm not jw, so i see this all standing up and very clear from an outsider perspective (i am still seeking my path).

i joined the blog a few weeks ago.

i dated a divorced jw (jw from birth) for a couple of years recently.

azor

That's exactly the point. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. I sent an email to my entire family regarding the australian royal commission. Even spun it in a positive light to make it more palatable to try and help some wake up. I got nothing but grief over it. Shoot the messenger.

I think Stephen Hassans book escaping cult mind control explains the reasons and best approaches for this quite well. I would be all over letter writing, billboards, phone calls, or whatever other reasonable activism if I thought it would help. Who knows maybe the text I sent is sitting on the back of some of my families heads right now.

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Why don't you do anything?

by WireRider in

i'm not jw, so i see this all standing up and very clear from an outsider perspective (i am still seeking my path).

i joined the blog a few weeks ago.

i dated a divorced jw (jw from birth) for a couple of years recently.

azor

Did your ex jw girlfriend ever view sites like this one? Jwfacts, and so on. I came to this site after I stopped going to meetings and knew I wouldn't go back.

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Almost 60 years ago, The Watchtower made a prediction that has proven to be amazingly accurate.

by Bonnie_Clyde in

i haven't posted for quite awhile, just usually lurk, but thought surely someone would have noticed this on jw.org.

this was under the article about distractions.

i clicked on the article and below is the "accurate" prediction that the wt made back in 1958. this has to prove they have jehovah's backing, don't you think?

azor

Wow. Watchtower the new Nostradomus. I'm gonna go get my tin foil hat now so the powers that be can't read my mind.

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Please stop deriding the Governing Body.

by Esse quam videri in

please stop it !!!.

we love them.

we all love them.

azor

Hilarious esse.

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Child care and abortion - two examples of the complexity of the issue

by fulltimestudent in

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in a perfect world, one would hope that no woman would need to consider an abortion.

there is unfortunately, no perfect world and there does not seem there will ever be a perfect world.

so consider .... 1. a child rape case in paraguay.. ... but the plot unfolding in paraguay is so dark and twisted that it is currently tearing the south american country apart.it began on april 21 when a mother brought her 10-year-old daughter to a public hospital.

azor

Dammit you made me cry. My daughter is 6.

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The Governing Body sends dissenters 'into the corn field'.

by Esse quam videri in

br.

azor

Very creative esse.