Posts by azor

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On respect for the belief of others. Sorry for the long post

by StarTrekAngel in

i am inclined to start this thread in response to some comments made in other threads.

i have been coming around these forum for quite some time now so whatever you find in here is not just related to something someone may have said this week.

it can go months back as well.. i have seen many who claim to respect the belief of others but when it comes down to applying it into practice, things take a whole different tune.

azor

To quote Charlie Brown. "Good Grief. " The on and on about hurt feelings here sometimes is just astonishing. Simons reference to kindergartners is apt.

I have seen over and over again people pile up on Viv. She unfortunately suffers from being an intelligent woman that doesn't flower her words. So what dammit. Woman/Man who f'in cares. None of us should.

I don't know if anyone has said this yet. No one deserves respect. Especially for their beliefs. Disagreeing with a topic is not hijacking. You don't like it go sing cumbaya with your hippie commune freaks elsewhere.

To many of the threads that I have read here are full of asinine bullshit. To many damn bleeding hearts. Grow up already. I'm getting a little too pissed off for a Thursday night. This nonsense of respecting beliefs is similar to the pain I went through when waking up.

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On respect for the belief of others. Sorry for the long post

by StarTrekAngel in

i am inclined to start this thread in response to some comments made in other threads.

i have been coming around these forum for quite some time now so whatever you find in here is not just related to something someone may have said this week.

it can go months back as well.. i have seen many who claim to respect the belief of others but when it comes down to applying it into practice, things take a whole different tune.

azor

I get it. To all those out there who get their feelings hurt when their wrong or not quite right. This is how you grow you put your ego aside and learn from those that know more about specific subjects then you do. I don't care if I'm right or wrong what I believe or don't believe. What matters to me is the search for truth not falsely claiming you have it which is what belief in essence is.

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On respect for the belief of others. Sorry for the long post

by StarTrekAngel in

i am inclined to start this thread in response to some comments made in other threads.

i have been coming around these forum for quite some time now so whatever you find in here is not just related to something someone may have said this week.

it can go months back as well.. i have seen many who claim to respect the belief of others but when it comes down to applying it into practice, things take a whole different tune.

azor

Oubliette I hear what your saying. I still don't get the term pro science. It's like saying im pro reality or anti reality.

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On respect for the belief of others. Sorry for the long post

by StarTrekAngel in

i am inclined to start this thread in response to some comments made in other threads.

i have been coming around these forum for quite some time now so whatever you find in here is not just related to something someone may have said this week.

it can go months back as well.. i have seen many who claim to respect the belief of others but when it comes down to applying it into practice, things take a whole different tune.

azor

There is a difference between a disease and a virus. Belief/religious especially is what drove the evidence in the case you mentioned. Anyone can skew information to justify their beliefs. Thus belief is the problem. The root, or however else someone wants to put it.

I don't understand the term pro science. Can someone be pro math, pro linguistics, and so on.

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On respect for the belief of others. Sorry for the long post

by StarTrekAngel in

i am inclined to start this thread in response to some comments made in other threads.

i have been coming around these forum for quite some time now so whatever you find in here is not just related to something someone may have said this week.

it can go months back as well.. i have seen many who claim to respect the belief of others but when it comes down to applying it into practice, things take a whole different tune.

azor

I was horrified when I discovered how Alan Turing was treated. The fact that there is not a statue with his name on it is ridiculous. He should be as well known as Einstein in the western world and yet I only recently heard of him and would have dismissed him outright as a JW a little over a year ago. The way he died is especially atrocious.

Belief is the disease that caused others to treat him inhumanely. Belief that someone born different is wrong and evil. Unfounded belief is the problem. Belief without evidence. Faith whether in God's or otherwise is damaging to our species.

I can only hopen for my children and future grandchildrens' sake that we wake up from the slumber we are in as a species. Cast aside our hubris and be willing to say I don't know and keep looking. Belief without evidence stops that process.

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On respect for the belief of others. Sorry for the long post

by StarTrekAngel in

i am inclined to start this thread in response to some comments made in other threads.

i have been coming around these forum for quite some time now so whatever you find in here is not just related to something someone may have said this week.

it can go months back as well.. i have seen many who claim to respect the belief of others but when it comes down to applying it into practice, things take a whole different tune.

azor

The LGBT approach was multi-faceted. The women's suffrage movement, and the anti racial discrimination movement were as well.

Religion/Beliefs are a virus that need to be eradicated like all of the other crap modern civilizations have rightfully placed in history where it belongs. Viruses can still pop up here and there, but applying the scientific method knocks it back so we can keep advancing.

Beliefs without evidence holds us back and we die because of it. I for one will no longer stand for the crap PC cumbaya notion that we need to respect others beliefs. I call bullshit. No more, people have died to young through the centuries because of this notion and continue to do so.

I hope that those who are thin skinned can put on their grown up pants and realize that there are much bigger things at stake than your hurt feelings. You might be wrong, so what, grow up and get over it already.

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On respect for the belief of others. Sorry for the long post

by StarTrekAngel in

i am inclined to start this thread in response to some comments made in other threads.

i have been coming around these forum for quite some time now so whatever you find in here is not just related to something someone may have said this week.

it can go months back as well.. i have seen many who claim to respect the belief of others but when it comes down to applying it into practice, things take a whole different tune.

azor

Pardon me if this has already been covered. The problem is the post itself. Belief of any kind does not merit respect. Jdub beliefs do not merit respect. KKK beliefs do not merit respect. Covering women in hijabs doesn't either.

I love this forum because beliefs are openly challenged. One of my favorite quotes now is "I respect you to much as a person (I would add as a member of my species) to respect your beliefs. If I'm wrong I should change. If anyone is and doesn't that does not merit respect. It merits shame and ridicule so this nonsense will stop.

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Where are you from?

by BeautifulMind in

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friends

i know we are all anonymous for our own personal reasons, so i understand if you would rather not say.

but if you don't mind sharing that would be cool.

i currently live in georgia, usa.

azor

Los Angeles, California.

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Mass Mailer to Congregations & Branches - Those who can't disassociate

by thedepressedsoul in

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/491270004/mass-disassociation-pact?size=10&page=15.

the topic above got me thinking.

everyone here can't send a disassociation letter due to family or other reasons.

azor

Blues brother. I doubt the elders know. I was an elder less than a year ago and I had no idea about any of this. Once I knew I was floored with the amount of lies from jworg. One of them principally being that "apostates" are liars, manipulative, and so on.

One of the things I told my siblings as I was walking away was that what fear does light have of darkness. If it's the truth it has nothing to fear.

I for one would like to participate. I have hundreds of addresses in the socal area mainly.

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All It Takes Is ONE!

by John Aquila in

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friends

ive been reading all these posts about bethelites and special pioneers being kicked out in the street and being forced to get a job to provide for themselves..

and im trying to put myself in their situation and feel the emotions that must be going through their mind.

what if my wife and i both dropped out of school to pioneer and got married at 18. and what if we were very faithful in listening to everything the organization says.

azor

I've said this before. If I had lost my son due to his leukemia diagnosis need for blood and found out what I now know after.

Theres a saying "hell hath no fury as a mother's wrath." I'm not a mother but I am a parent. I would have taken as many of the leaders out and then myself. I called under a pseudonym and told service desk at Brooklyn that.