Awakenednow
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What is true love video
by _Morpheus inso i got coerced into watching this crap last night.
a few observations:.
1) it personified the witness mantra that doing more for the org = happiness, doing not enough = misery.
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Awakenednow
You guys are so right. My favorite character was the worldly friend. He's happy, hard working, a loyal friend who gives sound advice and seems still single over the age of 21 (I hope) . He's the only one modeling sound healthy behavior! Go worldly guy!!! -
True Story
by Awakenednow ini just finished watching true story in my hotel room in hawaii.
not knowing much about the movie and not recognizing the name of the murderer on trial but in the mood for a psychological thriller this movie was selected.
huge surprise!
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Awakenednow
Hello Everyone. I just finished watching True Story in my hotel room in Hawaii. Not knowing much about the movie and not recognizing the name of the murderer on trial but in the mood for a psychological thriller this movie was selected. Huge surprise! The movie was about a journalist and his relationship with Christian Longos (didn't check spelling).... The JW from Oregon who murdered his wife and kids!! Has anyone had a chance to watch it? The religion was barely mentioned but the comment was made that he was sending his family to a better place ... Of course he was referring to death pre Armageddon to paradise resurrection. I remember reading about him on this sight several months ago! Does anyone know this family or remember the story? He is on death row and writes independent articles for NY Times according to the movie. What a sick F$&@! Could be an interesting conversation starter with sheeple. Blessings! -
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Mays JW TV Broadcast/Your feedback is appreciated
by ToesUp ini have a pretty good intuition but i have to admit i am going back and forth on the jw tv may broadcast.
i keep asking myself are they really in financial trouble (wishful thinking) or are they just grabbing for more money?.
i always appreciate reading everyone's thoughts and ideas on here.. let me know what you think.
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Awakenednow
It seems that with multiple corporations they probably shuffle the money out of one and the GB handlers tell the GB omg donations are down go get more...deficit spending because they made a large payment out to another holding company or hedge fund like they used in the funny deal with the Brooklyn properties. They are very wealthy and it's spread out on multiple financial statements. It all stinks! The friends just all had to buy iPads too. Pretty expensive...wtf? The starving dude spoon feeding the fatty cartoon above is right on , lmao -
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The present Governing Body will rule the U.S.A.
by John Aquila ini havent gone to meetings in about 1 year and a half.
one of my neighbors who is a jw-lady told me that the co on the last visit said that its very likely that right after armageddon (which is just around the corner) the present governing body members will be in charge of the united states since they are familiar with the culture.
and that the apostles and early christians will be in charge of areas like china.
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Awakenednow
SMH they need to stop talking. It just gets more ridiculous and pathetic. It's all 💩
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Prayer with my son before lunch. Your advice / experiences needed!
by Daniel1555 indear friends,.
i would like to hear your comments or suggestions on the following:.
a little background info.. i managed to fade completely.
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Awakenednow
Daniel 1555
Good plan! All the best to you and yours.
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Golden Rule: Pure Garbage?
by willmarite inon another thread a poster made the comment that the golden rule was garbage.
she said it was arrogant and made assumptions.. i didn't want to derail that thread so i started another wondering if this is a common thought about this belief on this forum.
i guess i naively thought the value of doing to others as you want them to do to you was generally accepted as positive.. i understand people have different opinions of jesus as a person but i don't want to get into that here.
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Awakenednow
physics asserts that for every action there is an equal reaction and on the quantum side , you are basically doing whatever it is to yourself. So, take care to act in a way that honors the free will of others while maintaining appropriate balance and boundaries of your own. Promote what you want not what you don't. Either way it will come right back acha. -
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My sons first talk
by lukejmedic inquick backstory:raised a jw, ms, reg pioneer, international need greater work.
i have been da for 2 years, divorced, ex and my son live 6 hours away near walkill ny.. my sons first talk is coming up, in august.
he is 7 years old.
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Awakenednow
Definitely go! He will always remember his dad was there. Smile , be yourself . Commend him in front of others. Maybe your Christlike personality will noticed by some there and they may wake up a bit. That whole "won without a word" thing , ya know? Your son , especially if he's watching , will see others with the problem and not you and wonder why someone as good as you is being rejected. Set ego aside and be love, perfect love casts fear away. Pray and know that God's goodness and grace surrounds you like a shield. (Some scripture) as your son grows he will see the difference and find his way as long as you remain a positive loving constant parental figure in his life. You have to model the dad you believe in. -
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Am I the only "witness here besides the admins?
by TheOnlyRealWittnessHere inwith all the negativity here i was wondering if i am the only one here that's a witness.
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the topic pretty much says everything..
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Awakenednow
Most of us were at one time in life dedicated and loyal witnesses. The negativity comes with hurt and the anger from being hurt. There are many reasons and each has a different set of them. You are searching for answers you haven't found at the meetings or in the publications or you wouldn't be on this site. As you learn from your own efforts and research, which I encourage you to do, ( jwfacts is terrific and quotes organization literature and is truly an unbiased examination of WT teachings through the years) . You may experience similar pain as you realize the depth of betrayal at the hands of these self proclaimed shepherds. Jesus promised the Holy Spirit for believers not a slave class (type or anti type of an illustration or is it a prophecy , huh?) that holt spirit will open your spiritual eyes if you simply ask. So when you feel as we do you will understand and not be offended by it. Some of us were molested, mistreated, gave up education & retirement , sold our homes, gave up our health (I was an international construction worker and saw firsthand older witnesses who ended up sick directly because of their assignments who were sent home with no care/no money to get care/ no money from savings to take care of themselves/ abandoned by this org or Borg) I experienced a very similar tale of Candace Conti in the 70's and bro Henschel was spoken with directly who said they wont act because of two witness rule and because of the ignorant "child repressed memory theory" ...he was completely wrong in every way!!! Funny, I was one of the few with two witnesses. It was sick.
Anyway, with some knowledge of the issues, you will mature and will hopefully become more empathetic to those of us needing to gripe and vent a little and at the same time find companionship and insights as you walk the road less traveled seeking truth.
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Found this article cited on Reddit today, Interesting
by XBEHERE inin their fantastic book about cognitive dissonance, mistakes were made (but not by me), carol tavris and elliot aronson write about the great psychologist leon festinger who, in 1957, infiltrated a doomsday cult.
the cult was led by dorothy martin who called herself sister thedra.
she convinced her followers in chicago an alien spacecraft would suck them up and fly away right as a massive flood ended the human race on december 21, 1954. many of her followers gave away everything they owned, including their homes, as the day approached.
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Awakenednow
It's so true. I read the book "2" about a former Mormon and so the reality snuck in "the back door" and it freed me.
Funny when that guy that predicted the end only a few years back in the states was in the news, my Jw mom was rolling her eyes and laughing about how moronic he and his followers were. I cautioned her not to laugh to hard because Jws did the same thing, 1870's 1914 1925 (ancient worthy resurrection) 1975. That guy was not very different and the look on her face was sadly priceless. Like huh? It hit home but dissonance hit back and she went back under the spell.
I remember one of those books on the subject stated how religion and beliefs are lodged in the survival parts of our brains and any threats to the belief trigger that survival threat and they fight tooth and nail to hold that belief even in the face of glaringly opposite factual truth. The Scientology movie out on HBO is fantastic to highlight all this.
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(Not)Preaching advice
by paradisebeauty inhaving recently had an "awakening" - not from reading awake .... i realize i can not preach doctrines i do not believe anymore .
but i do not want the elders to start following my every move, because i also have plans to check other christian denominations.. so i am thinking, should i chat for an hour or two with an old visit and report the hours, should i tell the elders i have some doubts and i do not want to preach for now or should i just stop reporting and avoid the elders attempts to talk to me?
what do you think is the best sollution to get away with this?
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Awakenednow
I stopped service and counting time and when I was asked by a relative elder I just said I can't in good conscience encourage someone to believe something I couldn't explain and needed to figure it out. I mentioned that it just seemed so obvious that the other sheep Jesus spoke about were gentile believers and what do you think. Then I moved. No one cared about me to find me to report it and I let it be. Over 5 years ago...
You could just not turn it in and when CO comes around and they need to update the file and call you could say that you forgot to write it down and can't in good conscience report inaccurately that far back...Oops sorry, you were distracted by a few personal issues. Wait til they call, and you don't have to pick up the phone. (Just saying). What if they forget to call? You don't have to worry and the longer you don't the obviously harder to honestly compile a back report and you can stand on the principle of honesty. Of course you've probably informal witnessed here and there even if fading so you can come up with a few hours over that span and let them figure it out for their report to the CO