Awakenednow

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  The Governing Body WILL be sued in America collectively and individually in the near future!

  by notsurewheretogo in

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  so lloyd evans aka cedars says on his facebook page when he attended a reveal jw child abuse event.. .

  interesting stuff but no details!.

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  Perhaps a coordinated registry on one website that includes each country naming victims, and all jw forums can link to it. Just a simple private registery that emails receipt and data input to the victim with an I.d. # on the public side to show the victim count. If it collects the data, then lawyers can utilize it in class actions around the world. I guarantee that America has several thousands alone probably tens of thousands. The collective has a much better chance of suing the corporationssss and the GB individuals in America. It would be public and too big to sweep under the rug. I would venture to say most ex Jw's check in on forums once in awhile as well as Facebook. So it could organically get huge quickly. I'll put my name on that list! I'm not computer savvy to know how to develop one, but if anyone is and would do so, it would help the movement. Perhaps Cedars can coordinate with that group and host such a site or knows if one is available? Hope you are reading these posts John 😉
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  We are becoming champions of grief. We lost twin B.

  by Darkknight757 in

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  2. experiences

  last week we had a reassurance ultrasound with our ob.

  she was just supposed to check heartbeats on the two little ones and they were going strong!

  but because she had extra time and she can be quite anal about her work (which is a good thing) she decided to take some measurements.

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  Sending you love in your time of deep sadness and grief, and wishing you, your beautiful wife and twin A comfort, blessings, health and gentle nudge to keep focused on staying as present with twinA as much as possible sending your baby as much joy and love and higher vibrations as he/she comes into the world. (perhaps A is feeling sadness and grief too as close as twins are?) Darknight, thank you for sharing your grief and reaching out to us. You are loved and everyone is praying for your family in our own ways, but here for you.

  Blessings and love,

  xo
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  If you had to choose

  by dothemath in

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  2. beliefs

  if you had to choose to belong to 1 religion, i was curious as to what any on the forum would pick.. i realize most here are likely atheist (i would have to say i'm agnostic), but if any would like to share their opinion, and maybe why?.

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  Loving yoga and it's diversity. Gods symbolize forces of nature so ... go meditation! Haha Hari Krishna but no street witnessing...so done with that !

  been to a non-denom. Grace Christian that I really like and I enjoy watching Joseph prince when he's explaining Jesus in the Old Testament types and the New covenant . Learned more bible truths watching his broadcast then reading watchtowers 40 years. I don't agree with everything he says such as hell stuff and I'm extremely cautious of personality cults but I've never heard a more beautiful revelation of Ruth and Boaz, the prodigal son and the organization of the twelve tribes around the tabernacle, priestly functions and garment meanings, etc. if any enjoy those topics... check them out. I also read the Christ Conspiracy which gives some evidence that the Bible is a history book of astrological symbols in a couple "zodiacal ages"... pretty interesting.

  Ive also discovered the physicist mathematician Nassim Haraseim, and his u-tube videos about sacred geometry are fascinating. He talks about the pyramids, ark of covenant in the context of geometry. He has recently done a movie with Patrick Stewart narrating about the consciousness of the universe. He Solved/unified the divide between quantum and relativity models with a unification equation and recently was published in peer reviewed science so he's the real deal and the movie is excellent !

  I know that's not one religion, so I'm gonna say I'm just gonna keep on learning as much as i can and not get all caught up in someone else's absolutes. So Romans 1:20...
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  At This Point In Time How Would You Feel If You Were Disfellowshipped?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  before my mother's death, it would have impacted me.

  now , i wouldn't care..

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  They'd have to catch me first....lol. But, even so, they hold no authority over me so it wouldn't change my situation at all. Never going back so whoever wants to spend time with me will. Its funny how when I run into old friends they assume my life should be awful, and seem so confused when they see how happy I am married to my worldly guy, how lovely my kids are so well-adjusted and happy looking forward to college and playing sports, going to prom, etc. that I have a fantastic life! Whats funny is that the ones you do run into and speak with think they are being used by the spirit to move you to return... smh.

  i enjoyed all your comments y'all ! It helps to hear similar stories and even laugh about it...Blondie (red dot, lol)
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  Never Thought I'd Say This, But I've Found Something to Look Forward to in the Meetings

  by Sorry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my therapist inspired me to start looking on the bright side.

  even though i've pretty much given up listening to the bs and usually tune out the meeting by playing on my phone/tablet, i find the local needs talk oddly fascinating.

  probably because it's the only part that doesn't seem outlined to death (at least at our hall), and you truly don't know what you get.

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  Actually I live in a gated community with a gate totally around my house' news flash! It works...the thieves move on to an easier target. But just in case, I do have my gun 😉

  Exactly Steve, why bother locking anything, heck don't bother with passwords etc., jah has this!

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  How long has it been since you have seen your family?

  by Christian Gutierrez in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  howdy guys!

  so how long has it been since you have seen your jw family or friends?

  or do you even care to have them in your life anymore?

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  My parents still in my life so a few weeks ago. My sister and friends, best friends, 6 years. Sucks! I don't care much about the congregation association, while I enjoyed and love everyone, they don't pull at my heart. I miss my sister and her family, especially now with my nephew having his first kid. But they only solution is GB finds old new light again (back to the 40's with the KM on how excommunication is a demonic mind fk) and lifts the shun or I go back in which I'll never do because of the lying and manipulation of the doctrine. It's really objectively a personality cult. I can't fake it and they'd all know just by my face lol.
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  Doe, et al v National Union Fire Insurance Company of Pittsburgh, PA.

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this is a lawsuit brought by watchtower against an insurance company.

  the company provided four insurance policies between 1989 and 1993. the policies were there to pay out any liability damages that would arise during that time from any damages caused by elders and mss advice.

  there were a number of exceptions that were spelled out in the policy which included that of a sexual nature and that if an elder or ms violated a law then the payout would not qualify.

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  Interesting....
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  Another recorded Judicial Meeting...

  by NikL in

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  2. friends

  i've listened to quite a few but for some reason, this one has me really angry.. my heart goes out to the young family dealing with this bull shite.. give a listen.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifkpiqigq9c.

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  Don't think, don't ask questions , otherwise you deserve "death" as apostates....it's crazy ....can anyone say North Korea?
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  Disfellowshipped people are dead people?

  by snugglebunny in

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  2. friends

  skimming though my iphone earlier today i came across a fb post - which i now can't find!.

  basically it was a claim that a gb member had stated that associating with a disfellowshipped person was akin to sleeping next to a corpse.. so obviously i'm curious as to whether anyone else has come across this..

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  P.E. ewwwhhhh...what the?

  And Blonde my undead worldly vampire spouse is the best time I've ever had!!

  And I agree with village , how awesome ... all us corpses haunt the Warwick place on Halloween with a zombie sit in...(btw, the name eerily the name reminds me of Bewitched for some reason....)

  The mental disease is theirs (GB) for comparing honest people (who disagree with psycho policies) to people deserving death or the death of a non jw loved one. What sickos for wishing that on someone and boasting on that for any reason
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  You Can Encourage An Inactive Christian!

  by Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/jw-meeting-workbook/april-2017-mwb/meeting-schedule-apr10-16/encourage-inactive-christian/.

  this is part of the clam meeting this week.. how contradictory is it?.

  first, they instruct people to avoid inactive ones and to shun them and to treat them the same as da'd or df'd ones, .

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  Drearyweather, I'm inactive and shunned by all except my parents, who are more distant then when I was active. My family includes several elders and pioneers. They can't get over the fact that I don't attend anymore (I'm a former bethelite, international construction worker and pioneer and I've risked my life refusing a blood transfusion), and I've explained to them that due to the child abuse legal and policy issues as well as controversial doctrine changes I can't wrap my head around (which somehow Makes me a spiritual loser according to wt because I can't shrug off the nagging thoughts due to seeing through the bs) so that I can't go in service and teach strangers what I can't even believe anymore for obvious reason the family agrees with even. Deep down they know I'm right, but the cognitive dissonance kicks in hard and it's easier for them to just shun me then be reminded that they could be wrong. I mentioned the above activities, because the CD is louder as they know I was all in and zealous for the "truth"; now I'm not and it confuses them, so it's easier for them to justify themselves to themselves by shunning in the form of "marking" so I'm out of sight out of mind. It gets hard because my nephew is looking forward to the birth of his first child, I'm not invited to any family gatherings etc. and we were all super close. But I am unable to fake it, so I am shunned because I choose it to live in truth. As far as wt policy, I think some convention talks addressed shunning inactive recently as well as it is ingrained in the wt social culture and reinforced by dubs like my family who are held as examples' so if they do it to me, others will follow their example and do it to others.

  They don't even invite my kids to memorial anymore. I don't attend for about 6 years now. My last one was very surreal and very void of uplifting spirituality as described in comments above. Lots of just going through the motion and get out so we can go to dinner. I live in socal and most people seem to enjoy the memorial as an occasion to dress up and visit, believing they are doing the right thing. I was highly disturbed when I read freemasonry rituals involving passing the emblems and not partaking called the black mass which seemed pretty similar to the jw celebration and so I'd rather not be a part of rejecting Jesus even unknowingly. It seems there is some truth to giving away energy in rituals, at least according to esoteric sources. So, I'd rather just leave it all behind and be the kind of person Jesus taught us to be, kind, compassionate, courageous, truthful and willing to reject religious dogma that seekers to diminish and control the sheep.

  Blessings to all of you who are caught in the middle with family still "in" and those fading; it's emotionally hard. Each should do what your gut tells you to do' fade, go all out, or participate for the love of family members who would be shattered to leave. It's very personal for each one of us. a bethel sister once told me when faced with an illness, "knowledge is power and chases away fear, so go get informed and you'll know what you need to do." Great advice, so research , observe and witness what is happening around you without judgement and you will be able to discern truth. With that you will create and maintain your own personal power and navigate the cult.