I was laughing to myself because if they had walked in to my study they would have seen
COC, Christian Freedom, Kingdom of the Cults, etc.etc. LOL!! pc
i just had a 40 minute discussion with two jw's.
i told them i really can't believe jesus was ever an angel.
i showed them rev 22:12-21. i told him that clearly states jehovah and jesus are both called alpha and omega.
I was laughing to myself because if they had walked in to my study they would have seen
COC, Christian Freedom, Kingdom of the Cults, etc.etc. LOL!! pc
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it has been said that one cannot unlearn what one has learned.when it comes to all the years of learning from the watchtower, is it easy or hard for you to unlearn, get it out of your mind so to speak and go on to learn newer and more meaningful things outside the walls of the watchtower.. when i was active in the watchtower there was the potentially endless cycle of assertions, analysis, counterassertions, qualifications, redefinitions, exceptions,extentuations, complications, hidden presuppositions, emotional colorings,and summations, ad infinitum.it had been exhausting.but now, i find a measure of relief, not from unlearning but from dismissing from my mind all of what i have learned from the watchtower for over 30 years.. and yet from time to time all those things taught by the watchtower for all those years resurface on my mind,so for me it is not easy to unlearn what i have learned.what about you?.
blueblades
It is extremely hard to undo all the years of brainwashing. I have been away for years and still kept most of the beliefs. It was not until I found this website that everything I thought was true turned out to be a complete lie. I now feel free to believe as I wish but it is still so very hard. MY sister-in-law told me something yesterday that I felt was a way to go forward. She said "you need to look ahead not back, nothing can be changed from the past, but everything can change going forward. You are the person you are because of what has happened in your past". Even though we all feel that sense of what might have been we need to keep striving forward.
(I know it sounds pretty pathetic but I just wanted to respond) PC
As usual thank you Valis.
I put my post under child abuse by accident, how do I change it?
i just had a 40 minute discussion with two jw's.
i told them i really can't believe jesus was ever an angel.
i showed them rev 22:12-21. i told him that clearly states jehovah and jesus are both called alpha and omega.
I just had a 40 minute discussion with two jw's. I told them I really can't believe Jesus was ever an angel. I showed them Rev 22:12-21. I told him that clearly states Jehovah and Jesus are both called Alpha and Omega. Then I talked about how it says not to add or take away anything from the bible. Then went to John 1:1. Then opened my Kingdom Interlinear Translation my father sent me and showed him how it was originally translated. The woman was totally dumb, but the guy kept wanting to talk to me. They want to call back on me and I said fine!!! PC
during period that the gospels were written jewish and samaritan apocalyptic sects revived the ot character joshua as the archetypical agent of salvation and conquerer of jewish enemies.
there in fact were groups that could rightly be called "joshua cults" that centered upon these apocalyptic anticipations and the character.
some would be liberators of the first century imaged themselves after the ot stories, reinacting the joshua story in some detail or promising to do so.
Peaceful- thanks very interesting.
DH Where is this information found? Thxs pc
do you have any good memories of jw get-togethers?
a lot of my good memories of them have tarnished with age.
i vaguely remember them.
This really brings back memories. I grew up on Long Island, NY, we use to have these great picnics with everyone. We all played ball and had lots of food. It was the only time we felt like everyone else. I even brought a couple of worldly friends once in awhile. My dad was the PO at the time. Then they changed to the elders. The new guy put a total cabash on picnics. (Is that how you spell cabash)? lol pc
g,day all from sydney.
i've been dropping in to the board since being d'fd a month ago and have been very encouraged by the posts and they way everyone has been able to move on since leaving the collective.. being a 5th generation, it was always very hard for me to imagine life life outside the truman show bubble.
having a huge extended family who are all believers means that i now have virtually nil social contacts.. soon to be divorced, the only contact i have with my past life is weekend visits from my 7 year old boy and 9 year old girl.
Beaker,
Thank you for sharing with us. Fill yourself with the true rainbow of colors that surround you, your children. You are now among friends. PC
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now is your chance to post your true sentiments.
this date will be my last post.. feel free to ridicule, humiliate, scorn, ravage, or whatever you all are used to..................as a disciple of christ, i should expect it.. brownboy
Brownboy, Why Not Today!!! LOL
if you had the opportunity to help a person understand the jehovah's witness religion, what would you make sure they understood about the "truth"?
Don't Drink the KOOL-AID!! CULT!