i was just reading the sept 1st wt.
the october 11-17 article is entitled (what else?
) beware of "the voice of strangers".
...it really makes you wonder if they really do believe that they are God's "channel" hear on earth, or if they know that they're not but they don't give a damn.They believe it and think they can do NO WRONG because of it!
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Welcome wiegel
comments you will not hear at the 9-19-04 or 9-26-04 wt study (august 15, 2004 issue) highlights only
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One thing has become very evident: Those with good spiritual habits and deep appreciation of Bible truth have no problem in holding firm when tests arrive. But those who in ?favorable season? miss meetings, are irregular in field service, and compromise on small issues often fail when under fiery test.The manipulation NEVER ENDS ...does it???
comments you will not hear at the 9-12-04 wt study (august 1, 2004 issue date) abbreviated
jesus said: "whoever wants to become great among you must be your minister, and whoever wants to be first among you must be your slave.
paragraphs 14-17. how can we acquire the proper view of greatness?
The fact is, those Witnesses who think they are strong, loving Christians are just the opposite.
'Pride before a Crash.' They just don't believe theirs is coming! LOL
i don't think i am breaking any copyright law here by retyping (quoting) a small section from the km.. just look what tactics the organisation are using by appealing to the consience of those trapped!respecting jehovah's authority.
with what do you associate the ancient names korah, dathan, and abiram?
rebellion!
Guilt, Guilt and MORE Guilt!
Farkel is right, it's the same old tired tune!
The GB has a real problem discerning the differance between legitimate criticism and rebelling against God!
...Correction. In their view there is no 'legitimate criticism,' only rebellion!!
comments you will not hear at the 9-12-04 wt study (august 1, 2004 issue date) abbreviated
jesus said: "whoever wants to become great among you must be your minister, and whoever wants to be first among you must be your slave.
paragraphs 14-17. how can we acquire the proper view of greatness?
I?ll only be posting Highlights from the next 2 weeks? articles since I?ll be quite busy.
Highlites are good. Your 'take' on things Blondie, I think, is 99.9% right on. Plus Highlites/abbreviated news makes WT info easier to take and 'cuts to the chase.'
I have to think that the leaders of congregation today are blind in their belief that they are differant from the ancient Israelites. Specificaly in their attitude about themselves as ' Spirit Appointed Shepards of God's People.' When in fact they are making the same errors of pride and oppression that the Kings and Priests and the others who led the Israelites made and are not recognising the danger they have put themselves in (GB included). Ezekiel 9:5,6 and 7!
ok, in bush's speech last night, his theme was "peace and security" or "peace and saftey" which i believe was his actual words.
well, we know the jw retoric about "peace and security.
does anyone here have insite on what the the bible is talking about with "...when they are announceing peace and security that sudden destruction will be instantly upon them..." .
But the problem with all of this to me is the word "instant". How instant is instant? I mean, to a guy to whom a day is as 1000 years and 1000 years is as a day, instant can have a pretty broad meaning. I'm just a person, and it still takes 24 hours to make one day for me. So, if the "instant" is more than, say, in the millisecond range, it's not quite "instant" to me, and the 1Thess scripture starts to become watered down as time goes by. Wouldn't it seem cosmically ironic for babylon the great to begin being destroyed in the land of babylon itself?
It seems to me, since God is speaking to us, 'instant' would be in a time frame that we would consider as fast. IMO
Yes, ironic and I think fitting!
at first it was a breath of fresh air with more freedom and less restrictions.
i sugest one read ray franz book on the subject i think it is in the crisis book but not sure.
when i went to bethel there was a 4 year requirement,,and if you left prematurely before your agreed mandatory duty was fulfilled you were put on some type of reproof or restrictions.
I was at Bethel when Knorr lost his crown and the GB came into power. At first it was a breath of fresh air with more freedom and less restrictions.... When the annoncement was made about the end of the four year requirement my roomate said he looked over at Knorrs table and he did not clap but kept a stern stoic face. At that time there was a lot more freedom to speak up and even complain in fact a bethelite who was in my congregation wrote a long list of complaints and was even verbal about them was never censored he was just concidered by most of us as a BA (bad attitude).
The GB has fallen into the same trap the WT Presidents had, and that is the trap of self importance. They counsel the congregations about it, yet they are the biggest offenders! The GB and the Presidents both lost sight of the great freedom God has given His Son the angels and humans to think and speak and act as INDIVIDUALS!!! They imagine they have come up with the perfect 'model' of how a worshiper of Jehovah should think, feel and act...very mono-tone, very two dimensional. Well intentioned I'm sure, but WRONG!
I could get into more details but my time is short as I have work to do,,but perhaps latter I may get into more of my observations about that time or perhaps there may be some interesting post made by others who know of or shared the experience.
That would be nice.
do you think it will be sparse at the meeting today?
i went to a congo where a large group went camping every labor day weekend but only by invitation.
comments you will not hear at the 9-5-04 wt study (august 1, 2004 issue) (abbreviated)
I try to ask myself as I do my reviews, what is going on behind the scenes in WTS land. I think that people within the organization are not showing proper humility towards the organization. An indication in some areas is the removal of many long-time elders by the new COs. Just enough to put fear into those that remain.
I'm sure your right Blondie. I think also the 'peasants are starting to revolt!' Which I am VERY HAPPY ABOUT!!!
With the GB, humility is defined as unconditional surrender to THEM!
ok, in bush's speech last night, his theme was "peace and security" or "peace and saftey" which i believe was his actual words.
well, we know the jw retoric about "peace and security.
does anyone here have insite on what the the bible is talking about with "...when they are announceing peace and security that sudden destruction will be instantly upon them..." .
Does anyone here have insite on what the the Bible is talking about with "...when they are announceing Peace and Security that sudden destruction will be instantly upon them..."
1 Thessalonians 5 : 3 says that, what said in verse 2 sets it up, " For you yourselves know quite well that Jehovah's day is coming exactly as a thief in the night. 3 Whenever it is that they are saying "Peace and security!" then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them just as the pang of distress upon a pregnant woman; and they will by no means escape." Verse 3 is definately an Armageddon scripture.
I don't think its about saying "peace and security" as much as it is about declaring it. When they declare it as having been accomplished that's when God steps in. I believe after Babylon / Religion is destroyed (War On Terror?) the world leaders will declare "Peace and Security!"
my ex husband (who is dfd but not a professsed apostate) told me yesterday that in october there is going to be a big push for preaching doom in service.. like the last chance to get people in before the end.. .
has anyone else heard this?.
i assume either his brother who is a dub or his mother have passed this on to him, in order to scare him to come back quick before everyone dies.. .
I know there is a great deal of disgust toward the WTS (I have it too), even so, Jesus taught the 'END' would someday come, how do we all feel about that. Shouldn't we take that serious?
