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Who's behind the WT / JW.org?
by elkatire1980 in
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i have always thought that the members of the governing body are just a decorative elements in the visible cusp of the organization.

i have read conspiratorial topics about who really rule, but they are not visible.

the shareholders of the corporation?
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Why does the Almighty need a mediator?
by economy in
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god is alike to all of his children, hence cannot elevate one child above all others just because one was brought into existence before others.

(ezekiel 18:4) someone has to be first-born which does not give him any superiority over others!

interestingly, jesus simply dismissed the whole idea of one being placed over the others as pagan.
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Confusion over the parable of the prodigal son
by economy in
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though parable of prodigal son is superlative in quality as it graphically picturizes the scientific law of cause and consequence, its conclusion defames god.

when the prodigal son returned repentant, his father showed his delight saying: let us celebrate this by killing a fattened calf.

(luke 15:23) such a concept (let us rejoice by giving maximum pain to another innocent living being) seems to be interpolation for the following reason:.
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Why do religious people make claims and then refuse to back them up?
by Viviane in
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several times over the past few months i have had conversations, both here and in real life, with religious people making all sorts of interesting and conflicting claims.

i like to know how things work, so generally i will ask questions to net out what i am being told and see if it can be explained and make sense.. for instance, if someone said 2+2=4 and i asked how, there are a variety of ways that could be shown to me, a number line, physical objects being put together, counting on fingers and toes, etc.

indeed, in my personal life, i often have to explain how certain technologies work, sometimes planned, sometimes off the cuff, from a variety of group sizes to a varying degree of technical expertise.
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Who exactly is an apostate?
by SonoftheTrinity in
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if you are a non-believing relative or spouse who is hostile to their doctrine are you an apostate?

if you studied with them and rang the logical fallacy buzzer for chits and giggles to see how they would react does this make you an apostate?.

if you are a born in who never got baptised does this make you an apostate?.
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God's supposedly chosen earthly organization (WTS/JWS) doesn't pronounce or spell god's name correctly !!!
by Finkelstein in
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this came up on terry walstrom thread topic recently and i thought it would be good to explore this further.

the jws are quite boisterous and arrogant that they use the proper name of jehovah as the divine name of god.

but a little investigation discovers something quite different.
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Teachings of Jesus—some are good whereas some are not
by economy in
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1) his blunt reply to a young man spoiled his interest in spirituality.

(mathew 19:16-22) this does not match the majesty of jesus.

what he said in mathew 16:21: if you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven contradicts what he said earlier in mathew 5:44-48 where he says if you want to be perfect, be like your heavenly father who loves both the saints and the sinners alikewhich obviously require that you need some material possessions with you.
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JEHOVAH A Partial / Selective GOD
by smiddy in
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jehovah only dealt with a patriarchal family after adam sinned .he then only turned his attention to the 12 tribes of what was to become the nation of israel .. apparently he did not give two hoots about the rest of mankind outside of this small group of people compared to the rest of humanity.. 4000 years later he declares his love for the world and had his son sacrificed , setting up a system ( christianity ) starting off with jews and then allowing gentiles to enter., again neglecting the rest of humanity / nations on the earth , leaving them to their own desires.. during the first 4000 years he spent a helluva lot of time and energy trying to convince the jews he was almighty god .. performing miracles ,raising the dead ,slaughtering opponents with angelic intervention ,committing genocide on israels behalf ,etc.etc.

you know the drill.. no such effort was made trying to convince other nations or blessing them for their achievements advancing civilization , they were left to their own device , no direction ,no help , or instruction was given to them whatsoever .

and nothing has changed this past 2000 years , it started out as a small group who by "divine providence" were to be called " christian" according to the bible , and again he is only acting on behalf of this group , neglecting all other nations who now cover most of this earth.. so my question is : if jehovah really did love the "world" humanity , why did he not act in behalf of all humanity instead of singling out a minority group of people 6000 years ago and continuing on with that policy till today ?.
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Adam and Eve account does not meet the criterion of a story!
by economy in
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adam and eve story does not follow the common logic..

1) children would never believe a lie (especially from a stranger) against their father who has already proved a supreme benefactor to them!.

2) if even if they believed, normal course of action would have been to wait!
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Why does Bible present God as too imperfect?
by economy in
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genesis 1:31 says: god saw all that he had made, and it was very good.

in other words, god rated his works as perfect..

if this is true, why his later works are too imperfect?