Posts by Aaron

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Did you re-evaluate who Jesus Christ is when you left?

by hooberus in

many on here left the watchtower for various reasons.

did any of you re-evaluate his deity after you left?

do you think that the watchtower has been accurate in the way they present what other's believe about jesus christ and his relationship to the father?

Aaron

Hello hooberus,

I re-evaluated who Christ was when I left the organization. The fact that he spoke with disfellowshipped people (John 9:34, 35) and ate and drank with them (Luke 15:1, 2) and even ate with a man who was 'called' a brother but was an extortioner and a greedy person (John 12:1-6; 1 Corinthians 5:11) attracted me to him. I realized I did not know him and because of this, I did not know the Father either (John 16:3). So rather than get involved in long debates about his 'diety' I cared more about knowing him personally. I read John chapters 14-17 and in those chapters he promises that ANYONE who is honest and true to their hearts and willing to hear things they do not agree with, can come to know the REAL him. So I asked the Father to show me the Christ.

In time this voice began speaking to me calling for me. I asked who it was and he answered, "I am the Christ." The next thing he said was "Just as I have walked, you also must walk." I learned that you don't really know a man until you have walked one day in his shoes. In this case, he told me many things to do and many things to say to several people and they way they treated me was EXACTLY how the Jews and the scribes treated him. It was through the ministering to other people that I began to 'know him.' I later read scriptures that he showed me that showed he had a horrible time in the flesh. Every night he would cry out in TEARS and AGONY because he did not want to commit a sin. He would cry over the death of John the Baptist, over Lazarus, over Herod, and others. He would cry for the crowds who followed him but only wanted to be fed; not to listen to him. He cried over those who betrayed him and it hurt him in his HEART when he was betrayed. He took the sins and sicknesses of many people and he himself was sick constantly. He was a very depressed man, full of sorrows and pity. Yet, he did not let his sickness get in the way of his ministering to people. Whenever people asked for him regardless of the hour; he would reveal himself. Through this I knew he was NOTHING like Jehovah's Witnesses and were he to be in the organization, they would disfellowship him for apostasy. This is how I got to know him and through this, I became KNOWN by him.

He also said many have read about him in the scriptures but have not come to know him. The reason is because they 'say' with their mouth they want to know the truth; but when they read they read with a purpose. They read to find evidence to believe what they WANT to believe and not what they don't want to believe. They don't read with faith for what "is," they read with expectation for their own understandings. That is why so many do not know him. They have not "walked" as he "walked.'

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What is heaven like?

by greatteacher in

when i was a jehovah's witness i believed only 144,000 people were going to heaven, so i am curious about what others feel about heaven.

this question is for those who believe in heaven.

Aaron

Hello greatteacher,

Peace be with you.

Heaven is very different from this earth and physical realm. It is not bound by time, nor by space. Because of that, you can enter heaven anywhere at anytime because the 'door' to heaven is in our midst. In the earthly realm, we get tired and hungry and have sickness and death and boredom. In heaven, because there is no flesh like the flesh we have now, there is no boredom, no sickness, and no death. We are given a new body made of pure energy called 'spirit body.' This body can do anything. In heaven, things operate at the speed of thought. So if you think of good things, they appear instantly. In heaven everyone also can read your heart and you can read theirs. Everything in heaven is naked and openly exposed so nothing is hidden. Because everyone there is 'good' and even the deepest intermost intentions are good, you have nothing to hide and neither do they have nothing to hide. They love you and really care for you and all that they ask is that you love them. Everyone in heaven loves each other so much that they naturally slave and serve one another. They get MUCH joy out of this because you really feel good about giving more than you do about receiving.

Everything in heaven exists in abundance so there is no reason to be greedy because there is enough of everything for everyone. In heaven they eat food and absorb all of it. The food makes them stronger and gives more life to the life they have. They can go in and out of the physical realm as well as in and out of other realms. All the ideas, all the fantasies, every thought came from heaven. It all started there and it all ends there. The kingdom of the heavens is everlasting and it is much like a magical kingdom that can do anything and everything. The whole kingdom exists because of love and by means of love, all things take place. It is true freedom and true peace, and all the former things cannot amount to anything like it.

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To those desiring to be of the anointed..

by kes152 in

the invitation to be of the anointed is offered to anyone, for the scripture says, "many are called, but few are chosen" (matthew 22:14).. the call is to anyone who wishes to be of the anointed and many respond to the heavenly calling.

but upon finding out what is needed and what is done, only few are the ones who choose to keep the anointing and remain in it.

others do not want to give up their 'possessions' and 'return to the things behind' (luke 18:22, 23; john 6:66).

Aaron

To heathen,

Where do you get your information about the "appointed times of the nations?" From what period to what period does it happen?

To integ,

If you truly believe you are of the anointed, then you have a responsibility to the household of God, yes?

My name is Aaron. i originally posted as 'kes152' but I wanted to use my real name. Peace be with you all.

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Adam & Eve , just plain DUMB?

by coolshark in

if they were perfect, why did they "eat" of the tree of good and bad and why not from the tree of life?

could it be that satan was jealous of eve when she was with adam?

i mean, before eve came onto the scene , surely satan spent some"quality" time with adam showing him the ropes, etc.

Aaron

Coolshark,

Peace be with you. Adam and Eve were not perfect. They were made "in the image of God" and there was no 'spot' no defect in them. They were also inexperienced and lacking knowledge, and because of this, the Father 'saw' in them that they had the potential to harm themselves. So the Father laid but one law upon them to 'protect the life' that he had created, from ITSELF.

The Adversary wanted to destroy that life. So he lied to Eve and said "convincing" things that led her to believe that eating of the tree would make her greater than what she is. So she, out of greed, partook of the tree and became 'well-versed' in the knowledge of good and in the knowledge of bad. The knowledge of bad that she partook of was the knowledge of deciet, blasphemy, accusations, hate, envy, sickness, and even death. She offered the fruit to Ad-ham and he too received the knowledge. The "knowing" of bad was so great, so intense that the knowledge killed them in their flesh. They were unable to handle such knowledge and when they heard the voice of JAH, they hid themselves and eventually perished.

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only preaching is not a way for true christians

by mineralogist in

could it be that different organisations just work on different ways to promote a christian life?

this means while wts is only active in preaching, others are active in social help, others ... well in other works.

that problem came into our mind by questioning why we are leaving.

Aaron

To mineralogist,

Peace be with you. Christ said to his disciples, "Go therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you.." (Matthew 28:19, 20) Notice he didn't say "Go knocking on doors." In fact, he prohibited them from doing that. Luke 10:7 He tells them, "Go not from house to house."

They were sent out into a city or a village, and to 'search out who in there is deserving.' The Christ said, "No man can come to me unless the Father draws him." (John 6:44). The 'spirit' would tell the disciples who in that 'city' is deserving and that one would approach them and ask. The disciples, in turn would heal the sick, tell them the things they heard from God and be ministers to them. If they were bidded to "dine with certain ones," they would go and dine with them. The only time Jesus 'entered a house' was when he was INVITED to. Zaccheus, the Pharisee, Lazarus, Martha, Mary, etc. all invited him. So he stayed there until he leaved. Anytime "we" were invited, we would stay there until we leave. We are not to go 'knocking on doors' and disturbing the public. We are to go to those whom the holy spirit sends us and help them in any way we can, whether physically, spiritually, or mentally. This is what the Christ means. Not that we should be "ministered to" but that we should "minister to others" the things we have.

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The Other Sheep.. Revisited

by Aaron in

"and i have other sheep which are not of this fold; those also i must bring in and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd.

" (john 10:16).

fold - a flock of sheep, a group of animals (merriam-webster dictionary).

Aaron

To James,

Peace be with you. Yes, I am the same 'Aaron' that posts on Tim's board. My original screen name here is kes152. But, I wanted my real name to show up so I just created a new account (not knowing that now i have to type out my whole email address to log in). I have been off and on this board at times, but I have been here before.

To Mizpah,

The Watchtower Society (and offshoots of them) try to divide the sheep of Christ, thus promoting "divisions" and sects. All are one and all belong to one.

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The Other Sheep.. Revisited

by Aaron in

"and i have other sheep which are not of this fold; those also i must bring in and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd.

" (john 10:16).

fold - a flock of sheep, a group of animals (merriam-webster dictionary).

Aaron

"And I have other sheep which are not of this fold; those also I must bring in and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd." (John 10:16)

Fold - a flock of sheep, a group of animals (Merriam-Webster Dictionary)

Since a 'flock' is the SAME thing as a fold, then when the Christ says that the 'other sheep will be brought in, they will be ADDED to the 'fold' or flock' he already had and all sheep will be in the same flock (fold). There is no "two folds" because two folds means two flocks and He said one FLOCK. Hence, all the sheep are together in one flock and all the sheep have one hope, one faith, one baptism.