Posts by dothemath

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C.O. is in town, the harassment begins...

by PeachRose in

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i haven't been to meetings in a long time (trying to fade).

ever so often i do run into a witness or 2 who are friendly, but reserved (after all i am considered in active).

anyway, my hubby & i are currently working on a letter to send to the society that will more then likely get us df'd or disassociated (same thing i guess).

dothemath

Re: On the Way Out

("I am going to accept a visit from the CO and DO in about three weeks. That is because I am an active witness, who has just stepped down as an elder, by submitting a letter about my doubts. I am going to keep saying that I have doubts (really I no longer doubt that the GB is wrong) but I will discuss it no further. I feel that this is a necessary step in my fading away gracefully..................." )

Just curious how this stragegy will work for you..........I too was an elder and also have numerous doubts about the "truth" .

Hope you find time to let us know how it goes.

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Tithing

by dothemath in

the society has always been against tithing..........a stand they took from early times and which hasn't changed............ do you think they now wish they had incorporated tithing, with all the money they seem to be requiring.

(ex.- every year the donation options mentioned prominently in the watchtower).

tithing has obviously worked well for the mormons, what would happen if they now decided to include this "principle" today?.

dothemath

The Society has always been against tithing..........a stand they took from early times and which hasn't changed...........

Do you think they now wish they had incorporated tithing, with all the money they seem to be requiring. (Ex.- every year the donation options mentioned prominently in the Watchtower)

Tithing has obviously worked well for the Mormons, what would happen if they now decided to include this "principle" today?

The donations I give are almost nill.......just a token.

world cup

by dothemath in

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i tried to watch some soccer a couple of days ago.......but fell asleep.

i'm afraid it just isn't my cup of tea..........especially after the great nhl playoffs we just had.. just trying to understand why it's the world's number one sport (or so i hear)..............i'm sure there are a few soccer fans out there, what do you like about it?

dothemath

I tried to watch some soccer a couple of days ago.......but fell asleep. I'm afraid it just isn't my cup of tea..........especially after the great NHL playoffs we just had.

Just trying to understand why it's the world's number one sport (or so I hear)..............I'm sure there are a few soccer fans out there, what do you like about it?

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Shave heads?

by dothemath in

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just a few weeks before the district convention, there was a brother playing a major part in the drama who decided to shave his head.........(there wasn't a lot there anyway) (this happened 3 or 4 years ago somewhere in canada).

as a result, he was told he could no longer be in the drama...........and someone else had to step in on rather short notice.. it seems they still equate everyone with a shaved head as some kind of a "skinhead", belonging to a gang or something.. is this how it's views elsewhere?

dothemath

Just a few weeks before the District Convention, there was a brother playing a major part in the drama who decided to shave his head.........(there wasn't a lot there anyway) (this happened 3 or 4 years ago somewhere in Canada)

As a result, he was told he could no longer be in the drama...........and someone else had to step in on rather short notice.

It seems they still equate everyone with a shaved head as some kind of a "skinhead", belonging to a gang or something.

Is this how it's views elsewhere?

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Could Advertising This Fact Bring Them Down?

by metatron in

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as far as i can tell, almost no witness i know is aware that all milk contains blood cells.. see:.

white blood cells are simply part of milk, human or otherwise.

any reference work will support this simple fact.. if this fact was widely publicized, again and again, could it create severe trouble for the watchtower?.

dothemath

If the Society was dealing with this issue for the first time right now..........I'm sure they would handle it very differently than when it was in the 1940's (or whenever the doctrine started)

Now they're stuck with this.......the repurcussions would be far too great to back off completely now. But they are trying..........(ex. - the acceptance of blood fractions)

They're likely hoping that eventually medicine will develop a synthetic blood product.

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Getting df'd for telling others about the WTS and the UN fiasco

by proandcon in

not too long ago in a local congregation in massachusetts, two people were df'd for telling others about the wts involvement with the un...anyone else hear of this happenning in your area?

i guess teling othere the truth about the wts is not allowed either.

the lack of honesty and humility in this group never ceases to amaze me.

dothemath

This is precisely the same weapon used by the Pharisees in the first century................

(John 9: 21- 23)

Then in answer his parents said: "We know that this is our son and that he was born blind. 21

But how it is he now sees we do not know, or who opened his eyes we do not know. ASK him. He is of age. He must speak for himself." 22 His parents said these things because they were in fear of the Jews, for the Jews had already come to an agreement that, if anyone confessed him as Christ, he should get expelled from the synagogue. 23 This is why his parents said: "He is of age. QUESTION him."

Note- I just used the Society's CD to paste the text.........handy, but not the purpose the had in mind.

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Have you been enjoying the Daniel Book?

by dothemath in

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the society's reasoning on the book of daniel gets pretty thin in on chapter 15............it jumps from the time of the romans under aurelian, all the way to britain, germany, etc.

within one verse.. jesus applied daniel 11: 31 to the time of the roman siege and the destruction of jerusalem....but of course the society adds to this and includes an entire modern fulfillment which requires a large amount of "faith" in their interpretation.. none of the events they talk about in chapter 15 are reflected in any meaningful way in daniel's prophecy...........i get the impression even our conductor is just going through the motions on this chapter.. the logic gets better in verse 43 of chapter 11............regarding the "treasures of egypt, the libyans, and the ethiopians..............and trying to apply this to our time.. have any of you been enjoying the daniel book?

dothemath

The Society's reasoning on the book of Daniel gets pretty thin in on chapter 15............it jumps from the time of the Romans under Aurelian, all the way to Britain, Germany, etc. within one verse.

Jesus applied Daniel 11: 31 to the time of the Roman siege and the destruction of Jerusalem....but of course the Society adds to this and includes an entire modern fulfillment which requires a large amount of "faith" in their interpretation.

None of the events they talk about in chapter 15 are reflected in any meaningful way in Daniel's prophecy...........I get the impression even our conductor is just going through the motions on this chapter.

The logic gets better in verse 43 of chapter 11............regarding the "treasures of Egypt, the Libyans, and the Ethiopians..............and trying to apply this to our time.

Have any of you been enjoying the daniel book?

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Recently Revoked JW Charitable Status in Canada

by Scully in

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recently revoked - search results

charities listing: recently revoked.

dothemath

I think most of these congregations listed have been deleted. I know there's been a few congs. dissolved in Saskatoon, and the Jasper cong. has been deleted for some time also. They now have to travel some distance to Hinton, Alberta.

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CO Comments

by dothemath in

the circuit overseer in a neighboring circuit has been telling audiences in his visits to the congregations the following:.

the governing body feels that the massacre in rwanda happened because satan wanted to get at the witnesses in that country.. i agree that satanic influence could have been behind it..........but do you think the thousands of casualties were caused solely to affect the small minority of witnesses there?.

i suppose it's the same logic that ww1 + ww2 happened to get at the remnant of the 144,000. any comments on this?.

dothemath

I guess I wasn't alone in thinking how rediculous that sounded.........

Daniel P-...........the CO mentioned the Rwanda incident, and also how the Governing body felt it was to get at the witnesses there.

the reference to WW1 + 2 was my comment on the issue.

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CO Comments

by dothemath in

the circuit overseer in a neighboring circuit has been telling audiences in his visits to the congregations the following:.

the governing body feels that the massacre in rwanda happened because satan wanted to get at the witnesses in that country.. i agree that satanic influence could have been behind it..........but do you think the thousands of casualties were caused solely to affect the small minority of witnesses there?.

i suppose it's the same logic that ww1 + ww2 happened to get at the remnant of the 144,000. any comments on this?.

dothemath

The Circuit Overseer in a neighboring circuit has been telling audiences in his visits to the congregations the following:

The Governing Body feels that the massacre in Rwanda happened because Satan wanted to get at the Witnesses in that country.

I agree that Satanic influence could have been behind it..........but do you think the thousands of casualties were caused solely to affect the small minority of witnesses there?

I suppose it's the same logic that WW1 + WW2 happened to get at the remnant of the 144,000. Any comments on this?

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