for those that believe in the flood story as genesis says, then they also are forced to accept a huge amount of evolution, way faster than any evolutionist would propose.. from a basic selection of "kinds", to the several millions of land species there are now, and in only about 4000 years.. not to mention the many types of birds that made it to remote islands, and then somehow lost their ability to fly... not even possessing wings( ex- dodo bird, moa).
scientists agree this was a process that took eons of time.. i was thinking of this because we just had a public talk on noah.
i sure couldn't make a fool of myself on that subject, going on how "factual" it all is..
Enjoying all your analysis, and also the in- depth research Anders Anderson.
I vaguely recall reading somewhere the idea from an awake that after the flood, the increased ultraviolet light (that water canopy was now gone) caused more variation.
Basically endorsing the idea of mutations......they should just give up and use some "discernment" and "wisdom".
for those that believe in the flood story as genesis says, then they also are forced to accept a huge amount of evolution, way faster than any evolutionist would propose.. from a basic selection of "kinds", to the several millions of land species there are now, and in only about 4000 years.. not to mention the many types of birds that made it to remote islands, and then somehow lost their ability to fly... not even possessing wings( ex- dodo bird, moa).
scientists agree this was a process that took eons of time.. i was thinking of this because we just had a public talk on noah.
i sure couldn't make a fool of myself on that subject, going on how "factual" it all is..
For those that believe in the flood story as genesis says, then they also are forced to accept a huge amount of evolution, way faster than any evolutionist would propose.
From a basic selection of "kinds", to the several millions of land species there are now, and in only about 4000 years.
Not to mention the many types of birds that made it to remote islands, and then somehow lost their ability to fly... not even possessing wings( ex- dodo bird, moa)
scientists agree this was a process that took eons of time.
I was thinking of this because we just had a public talk on Noah. I sure couldn't make a fool of myself on that subject, going on how "factual" it all is.
and with it the language in the w.t loosing its authority?.
i ask the question because, with the g.b now appearing before members on their social media, and reluctantly on royal commissions my opinion is :-.
a) the g.b can no longer hide like wells's invisible man.
Not sure if any of you ever met or heard James Penton........I did many years ago.
my impression was of someone very intelligent and capable(he was a university professor), the extreme opposite of Lett.
They should have listened to him all those years ago, but of course instead they disfellowshipped him.
just got back from "imitate jehovah" ca and noticed that the theme was never really used at all.
all the talks were about family, preaching and getting along with others in the hall.
they didn't once go over an account of how jehovah acted in the past and how we should imitate that action.
At our assembly the bethel guy talked about all the bethel layoffs, and joked that at least "he had a return ticket".
He also went on the typical "watch out for apostates" rant, but (ironically I thought) he warned against following individuals and used the example of Jim Jones.
He even mentioned about drinking the poison kool-aid! I think everyone here knows most witnesses would drink anything the governing body told them to.
there has been many threads from various posters around the world about recent bethel layoffs.. so far i remember threads about:.
south africa.
united states.
Just would like to say thanks to everyone for all the info!
Its been an awesome week reading about all the latest news.
I might have to actually attend this Sunday to hear the big announcement (maybe I will get a chance to comment in the watchtower about the great expansion going on!)
how accurate is the bible?
the "compiled" version (council of nicaea) was not established for hundreds, or even thousands, of years after events happened.
stories were handed down generation to generation to generation before being written down.
Something I never noticed before in the old green bible(the one with the dinosaur on the map)
genesis is listed on the chart under "time covered" from
46026 bce to 1657 bce
Back then they were sure each creative day was 7000 years ,
so 6days x 7= 42000 added to when Adam was created to the death of Joseph.
good for a laugh now!
just noticed this in the old green bible (the one with the dinosaur on the map) .
in the list of what years are covered by each book, genesis is listed as from.
46,026 bce - 1657 bce.
Just noticed this in the old green bible (the one with the dinosaur on the map)
In the list of what years are covered by each book, Genesis is listed as from
46,026 bce - 1657 bce
Back then they were sure each creative day was 7000 years= 42000. Added to that is time from Adam to the exodus.
good for a laugh now!
monday is a holiday.......so a super zealous brother asks me....."are you going out in service then?.
absolutely the last thing i would want to do!.
if i do go again ever, i think my presentation should be " i'm so sorry for ever bothering you with the absolute crap we're handing out.
Monday is a holiday.......so a super zealous brother asks me....."are you going out in service then?
absolutely the last thing I would want to do!
If I do go again ever, I think my presentation should be " I'm so sorry for ever bothering you with the absolute crap we're handing out. I Also apologize for thinking we knew everything. We actually know nothing about the bible, and aren't qualified to give direction to anybody!"
i was just wondering if any of those jw's who got their story told or featured as "a fine example" in the publications, if they ever left the org later?
i mean i know regular jw's would probably never hear about it but i thought maybe you guys might?
i went to the mall recently .....omg!
glad i don't have to go through all the craziness over christmas shopping..
I went to the mall recently .....omg! Glad I don't have to go through all the craziness over christmas shopping.
