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  Was I Disrespectful to Dr Singelenberg?

  by slimboyfat in

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  as some may know, richard singelenberg is a dutch anthropologist who studies jehovah's witnesses.

  he has produced academic articles and reviews on issues ranging from the 1975 disappointment and child custody cases to jehovah's witnesses in nazi germany and the history of the blood doctrine.

  sometimes he sides with apostates and sometimes he sides with the witnesses on controversial issues (though i personally suspect the former impulse is greater than the latter).

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  you sound like a dick
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  your JW experience hides something deeper

  by seesthesky in

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  as odd as this may sound i believe that your continual struggle with your past life as a jw is in fact a cover for something else - i do not know what that something else is but i am almost 100 percent certain that somehow someone or something has used your jw experience to disguise some greater violation of your souls - any thoughts?

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  markfromcali: "But then to put things in context, that could be any kind of experience, JW or not, pleasant or not - right? Actually we can just say the human experience has something deeper behind it. I know you've made the point already but I think starting out by pointing to the JW experience in particular may give the wrong impression."
  
  yes, you are right - many misunderstood the post most likely because i did not state my thoughts clearly
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  your JW experience hides something deeper

  by seesthesky in

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  as odd as this may sound i believe that your continual struggle with your past life as a jw is in fact a cover for something else - i do not know what that something else is but i am almost 100 percent certain that somehow someone or something has used your jw experience to disguise some greater violation of your souls - any thoughts?

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  cypher 50: "You have never been a JW, have you? If not then how can you even come here and make a general statement like your original post? I understand what you are saying (some people use their prior past as a JW for a sympathy crutch) but to assume that all the people here are doing that is wrong on so many levels..."
  
  why would u assume i have never been a jw? also, u do not understand what i am saying - my post has nothing to do with people here seeking sympathy - nothing whatsoever - my inquiry concerns a type of duality that i sometimes suspect exists - a duality where human conduct signifies something greater than what we can realize
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  Illegals have more driving rights than U.S. citizens

  by jt stumbler in

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  here in colorado, two denver police detectives were shot at a baptismal celebration.

  one is dead the other hurting.

  the deceased leaves a wife and two daughters.

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  ezekiel3: "You are you advocating a modern version of slavery?? You say that "Illegal imigrants are more help than harm." You could say the same thing about African slaves in America as well. Mexican illegals are underpaid, overworked, and a skat more well-treated than the US slaves of past centuries.
  
  The only thing Mexican nationals are free to do is pass over the border and collect on free health care and services.
  
  Are we willing to accept a correction in our economy in order to improve the economic and social quality of life for legal farm labor? I am. Otherwise we turn our heads to the reality of US modern slavery, the cheap disposable illegal Mexican."
  
  I AGREE - the us uses mexicans who immigrate to the us illegally like slaves - it's the american way!!!
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  Illegals have more driving rights than U.S. citizens

  by jt stumbler in

  1. social
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  here in colorado, two denver police detectives were shot at a baptismal celebration.

  one is dead the other hurting.

  the deceased leaves a wife and two daughters.

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  sixofnine: "Illegal imigrants are more help than harm, that's why we have the system in place that we do. Shooting detectives is a very naughty thing to do, but then again, there a millions of "illegal" immigrants in the US that have not shot detectives. Speaking in broad generalities, "illegal" aliens are better behaved than the American population at large, for obvious reasons.
  
  That there is an uproar about "illegal aliens" at all speaks more to the fact that so many Americans are small-minded racist knee-jerk scum, than to the notion that a great many Americans have identified a real problem and are offering real, honorable, patriotic solutions. It's also the product of the end of a long period of financial "ease" for middle class America. Those jobs that no one wanted for so long... well, we still don't want them, but as we get nervous, we think we might actually need them one day soon. But of course, cheap labor was part of the reason we had such financial "ease" in the first place.
  
  People tend to get mean when they are afraid."
  
  ditto -
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  your JW experience hides something deeper

  by seesthesky in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  as odd as this may sound i believe that your continual struggle with your past life as a jw is in fact a cover for something else - i do not know what that something else is but i am almost 100 percent certain that somehow someone or something has used your jw experience to disguise some greater violation of your souls - any thoughts?

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  fairmind: "Seethesky, you are dead right! My frustration and aggravation with the JW religion is simply a continued manifestation of my disgust for all things deceitful and hypocritical. By the way, are you a Watchtower writer, as you seem to have the style down pat?"
  
  not a wt writer - what is the style of those writers?
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  your JW experience hides something deeper

  by seesthesky in

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  2. scandals

  as odd as this may sound i believe that your continual struggle with your past life as a jw is in fact a cover for something else - i do not know what that something else is but i am almost 100 percent certain that somehow someone or something has used your jw experience to disguise some greater violation of your souls - any thoughts?

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  funkyderek: "How peculiar. You seem to be applying that vague and unsupported statement to everybody here, when in reality all we have in common is that we were once associated with the Watchtower Society, or know someone who was/is, and that we have Internet access. What exactly are you saying and what are you basing it on? Or are you just trolling?"
  
  i could have been clearer i see - my statement was intended as a hypothesis of sorts - a speculation about what's going on with the people who use this board - i am not married to the idea, though, but it does seem that human soul-struggle might have greater implications than we realize - my idea, however, might also merely demonstrate my inflated ego - i just sometimes get this sense that i am not seeing something very important - but here and there get glimpses of it - kind of like some of the characters in the "Matrix" -
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  your JW experience hides something deeper

  by seesthesky in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  as odd as this may sound i believe that your continual struggle with your past life as a jw is in fact a cover for something else - i do not know what that something else is but i am almost 100 percent certain that somehow someone or something has used your jw experience to disguise some greater violation of your souls - any thoughts?

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  doogie: "ah. i think i see what you're getting at. and it could likewise be said that individuals with a propensity for offering unsolicited, intimate counsel to strangers may very well be dealing with some deep, unrelated, emotional struggle as well. perhaps the counsel offered, while on the surface appearing to be directed towards an outside audience is actually a manifestation of the subconcious trying to work through these very same personal issues itself. no?
  
  (edited because i can't spell for crap)"
  
  well - i didn't give counsel - i only proffered speculation and asked for your opinions on it
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  your JW experience hides something deeper

  by seesthesky in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  as odd as this may sound i believe that your continual struggle with your past life as a jw is in fact a cover for something else - i do not know what that something else is but i am almost 100 percent certain that somehow someone or something has used your jw experience to disguise some greater violation of your souls - any thoughts?

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  btt -
  
  "your continual struggle with your past life as a jw is in fact a cover for something else" - this struggle it seems is not unique but manifests itself in various way - i.e., people struggle deeply with various aspects of themselves on all sorts of matters - such matters include phobias, hatreds, obsessions and so on - and it seems that these struggles with the immediate represent something greater, perhaps something spiritual, something we rarely understand because we are essentially physical
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  your JW experience hides something deeper

  by seesthesky in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  as odd as this may sound i believe that your continual struggle with your past life as a jw is in fact a cover for something else - i do not know what that something else is but i am almost 100 percent certain that somehow someone or something has used your jw experience to disguise some greater violation of your souls - any thoughts?

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