Posts by prophecor

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Being JW and Psychiatry

by prophecor in

in looking at so many post over time, i've come to the conclusion that so many of us as witnesses, seemingly have a predisposition towards emotional disorders and mental illness.

just reading some of the post on suicide, i get the feeling that there is some subtle force that exhibits itself in the teaching in the kh that can have a tendency to draw this kind of energy out of someone.

i couldn't see it while on the inside, now that i'm out ,however, i can see things so much differently.

prophecor

Everyone here has helped so much and thanx.

I'm reminded of the movie "The Usual Suspects". At the end of movie, Kaiser Sorsee' had the detective doing the interegation so completely fooled as to his not being the criminal.

Kaiser Sorsee' was famed for convincing everyone that he didn't exist. Though those that knew he did, were so completely terrified of him.

At the tail end of the movie, the detective was urged by one of his fellow officers about the need to stand back from a situation, in order to get a clearer picture of the problem he wanted to solve. As KS is walking away, the interogating officer takes a moment to ponder what his partner said.

Seperating himself from the situation, slowly the peices begin to fall into place, and before he gets a chance to even realize all along he's been played for a fool, KS disappears into the crowd, the detective realizes he's been duped.

KS actually worked against the detectives better judgement, causing him to remain in the dark until the very last moment, resulting in KS being able to evade being captured.

For some reason, I feel like that same detective that's had an opportunity to stand back from the situation, but I'm in like slow motion not having reached that point where I can bring it all together. I'm truly still in a state of shock, hoping that I too can reach that point.

And I'm affraid. Everything that they have pitched for so long, can still have a ring of truth to it, even though all the while, I see so much evidence that there's something rotten in Denmark, as it were. The UN Scandal, Malawi & Mexico, how we for so long have been at the controls of people who script out rules and regulations without a thought as to the reality of the lives that have been destroyed, and it can still sound so good, paradise, eternal life.

Thank you all for your help as I patiently wait to walk out of the prison cell that can still feel like home. The cell door is open, unlocked, but it feels like its going to be a long walk. Not walking out of the desert, but thru it.

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Did you pray because you felt like it or because you were told to?

by JH in

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witnesses pray many times a day.

at the field service, at the meetings, before each meal and even more.. i don't know if you're like me, but i didn't pray because i felt like it, but because i was told to.. personally, 1 long honest prayer a week would have been much better than 20 routine prayers.

did you feel that it was natural to pray 3 times a day or more?.

prophecor

Always felt the need to, and now even more so, than when being JW. Still takes a bit of getting used to because of having been taught that God doesn't listen to a sinners prayer. My hands being filled with iniquity.

Some favorite scripture in Isaiah that was constantly quoted.

Also the issue that Jehovah's Witnesses were the only ones whom God heard.

Anyone otherwise was not even allowed or supposed to pray to him. A special privelege reserved only for His servants exclusively!!!

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A billion... and one... in the sky

by Jim_TX in

as many know, i go visit my aunt some weekends.

she lives northwest of the city - in a small town.. saturday evening... i went outside to get something from my car.

most of the lights were off... and i looked up.. there were a billion - and one - stars (and planets) - in the sky.

prophecor

I'm in absolute agreement with the movie "Contact. "

Awesome!!!

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Being JW and Psychiatry

by prophecor in

in looking at so many post over time, i've come to the conclusion that so many of us as witnesses, seemingly have a predisposition towards emotional disorders and mental illness.

just reading some of the post on suicide, i get the feeling that there is some subtle force that exhibits itself in the teaching in the kh that can have a tendency to draw this kind of energy out of someone.

i couldn't see it while on the inside, now that i'm out ,however, i can see things so much differently.

prophecor

So is that why I can feel as if the prison cell is open, and though I take leave from the cell, having a measure of freedom, I can still find myself back in the cell, possibly trying to seek what I thought was the comfort that the prison provided?

Thanx ahead of time Gary Buss

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What's "OK" in the JW org. today that was "wrong" just a few years ago?

by JH in

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i remember about 15 years ago, most jw's didn't have the cable, but today most of them have the cable.

what was wrong or borderline then is ok today.

give examples of what's "ok" today compared to "not ok" years ago.

prophecor

A'ight a'ight, I know this was eons ago, but from the 40's thru 60's, wingtips were the rage among all the hipsters of that generation, also the popular Stacy Adams hi-top mens boot, affectionately refered to by us "city slickers " as left hooks, was a standard in the modern man's upscale wardrobe.

These items were regarded as almost taboo to wear for a witness of Jehovah, during the days of old skool, too trendy and unbecoming a Christian.

These items are now pretty much the standard, as they are a timeless, classic dress shoe for men, they are often prefered over the styles that come and go, here today, gone today.

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What would you like to do if you knew it wouldn't kill you?

by Elsewhere in

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...or hurt you.. as an example: drive your car off a cliff like in the movie groundhod day, just for the hell of it.. basically something that would normaly kill you or leave you messed up real bad... but in this case you could "reset" all new again.. don't be shy... i won't think your weird if you want to blow your head off just to see what it's like.

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prophecor

I've been told by my wife that I'm completely insane for even thinking this, its been a topic of discussion that comes up for us many times.

I would like to be able to witness the beauty of a nuclear explosion, maybe even several of them. Man in his infinite wizdom having the knowledge and the capacity to split the atom, and all that secret knowledge entails is truly a, dare I say it, a Gift from God, yes, that's right, I said a gift from God, which we as human beings have perverted to come up with the H-Bomb, A-Bomb and several other unfortunate aspects of that same field of science.

We also are blessed by that knowledge thru the use of microwave ovens, satellite navigation systems, and myriads of other technological advancements that have their onset in such sciences and technology.

To witness a nuclear explosion in the perfect world, would be the most awesome fireworx extravaganza to mirror, in the basest of sense, the creation of the universe.

ONE HELL OF A BIG BANG BOOM !!!!!

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A billion... and one... in the sky

by Jim_TX in

as many know, i go visit my aunt some weekends.

she lives northwest of the city - in a small town.. saturday evening... i went outside to get something from my car.

most of the lights were off... and i looked up.. there were a billion - and one - stars (and planets) - in the sky.

prophecor

Being one from the city, I don't have the privelege of experiecing the glory of the heavens from all of the light pollution due to street lights, neon signs of advertisements and the skyscrapers in the heavy bussiness districts.

Though while spending time with a musician for a few days, near Pittsburg, I was able to witness that glory. There were virtually no street lights anywhere and at night all of the stars that you could see were multiplied by countless.

It was an awesome experince I will never forget. I imagine you view yourself as truly blessed to be able to experience the smalltown and country life.

God's way of always reminding me of how infintesmally small we are in relation to the universe.

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My sad news

by Fe2O3Girl in

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as some of you on the board knew i was expecting a baby, i feel i should let you know that things have not worked out for us.. when i went for the 20 week ultrasound scan last thursday, severe problems were found with our baby's internal development.

only one kidney was detected, and it was very enlarged and polycystic.

there was no long term hope for the baby at all; if it survived to full term it could only live for hours at most.

prophecor

My sincerest of condolences go to you and your husband.

It is one of the greatest of things that a man can do, that of sticking by his wife in a time of complete crisis and does solidify the the bonds that exist between husband and wife.

My thoughts and prayers go with you.

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If You Wanted Someone To Join JWD, How Would You Describe This Place?

by minimus in

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this board is the biggest jw discussion board that i know of.

i'm sure timid witnesses look here on a daily basis but do not join for various reasons.

i know some might not really know what to expect if they did become a member.

prophecor

I would describe "The Board " as a place of recovery for those who have either left or were forcibly removed from the organization, that can be utilized to work thru some of the painful issues of being JW.

Upon coming here, some may find healing from the tyranical like rulership that has incorporated fear and misunderstanding in the lives of many of us, and might find a way to get beyond no longer being able to associate with their loved ones who may still be on the inside. Everyone here is not disfellowshipped or disassociated, and many who come here, in various stages, still frequent the KH.

Being able to discuss your concerns here in the open gives a voice to what troubles so many of us, as we all either try to get beyond being JW, or even having a place to be until you can comfortably go back to being JW, should that be your choice.

PhessUP

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Being JW and Psychiatry

by prophecor in

in looking at so many post over time, i've come to the conclusion that so many of us as witnesses, seemingly have a predisposition towards emotional disorders and mental illness.

just reading some of the post on suicide, i get the feeling that there is some subtle force that exhibits itself in the teaching in the kh that can have a tendency to draw this kind of energy out of someone.

i couldn't see it while on the inside, now that i'm out ,however, i can see things so much differently.

prophecor

In looking at so many post over time, I've come to the conclusion that so many of us as witnesses, seemingly have a predisposition towards emotional disorders and mental illness. Just reading some of the post on suicide, I get the feeling that there is some subtle force that exhibits itself in the teaching in the KH that can have a tendency to draw this kind of energy out of someone.

I couldn't see it while on the inside, now that I'm out ,however, I can see things so much differently. I can't say its any clearer, so much of the programming still exist in me, however, being able to stand back from the situation, I can see how easy it is to succumb to the guilt, fear and shame that the Society can place upon us.

Are Jehovah's Witnesses, to some extent, pre-disposed to mental illnesses as opposed to the rest of society? Not that they caused it per say, but if you already have a leaning in that direction to begin with, does it make you more susceptible to mental illness?

I am a survivor of the psychiatric and mental health system, and often wonder, had I never gotten involved with JW's to begin with, how my possible past might have turned out differently.

PhessUP