hey erin - any chance you could get hold of a real nasty virus and send it to yourself but never open it ? ... well, at least you wouldn't open it ... perhaps a virus that would attach itself to 'your' address book and send out a message to all those snitching emailing elders ... could have fun with what the message would be ... heh-heh ...
alliwannadoislive
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The brothers hacked my email!
by Erin injust learned that a group of jws hacked my email over a considerable period of time, hoping to intercept "incriminating" information in an attempt to disfellowship me!.
they printed up the emails and passed them out to other elders to "examine".
they were certainly very, very disappointed to not find anything they could "use".. the only outgoing emails from me they obtained were those attached to incoming mail as a result of some friends hitting "respond" when they wrote back to me.. the person who got into my email account is a ministerial servant who had previously worked on my business web site and therefore had my password.. he would download my email onto his computer, miles away, and then put everything back as "unread" so nothing would be "missing", when i accessed email from my computer.
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My Disassociation Letter - Should I post it ?
by alliwannadoislive infriends,.
i posted a question in november on whether i should da - and i got a surprising level of response - i was also swayed towards not 'playing the wt game'.. however, i feel i want closure.. please see below the letter i have just finished writing - i plan to post it later this week, but would like to know your opinions:.
1) should i send it - yes or no.
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alliwannadoislive
hey y'all - thank you so much for your comments and words of support
Thi - i'm sorry you regretted DAing :( ... all the UN stuff is in a smaller font and indented in the actual letter - all my formatting was lost when i posted it
Will - the Galileo quote was from someones signature here
RipVan - the UN stuff was quoted directly from the guardian website - sorry it's not too clear on here - but see above comment to thi
Lionel - my objectives include not feeling i have to keep hiding or making excuses - i really just want to carry on my life with regular everyday folk
Latte - haven't posted it yet - wanna join me ? ;)
Room215 - nice idea about the appendix - i'll do just that ...
Hmm - good points - you're right, i'm not choosing to disassociate with these people - where's that tippex ? ...
Borgfree - that is such good news about your son - best wishes to you in gaining the rest of your family !
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My Disassociation Letter - Should I post it ?
by alliwannadoislive infriends,.
i posted a question in november on whether i should da - and i got a surprising level of response - i was also swayed towards not 'playing the wt game'.. however, i feel i want closure.. please see below the letter i have just finished writing - i plan to post it later this week, but would like to know your opinions:.
1) should i send it - yes or no.
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alliwannadoislive
eek! they read it out ? mind you, i expect that to read it would be like associating with an apostate, so perhaps they just announce or read the 'i choose to disassociate' bit ? ... gulp ...
i love the idea of a mass DAing ...
letter not copyrighted - yo uare very welcome to use any bits you wish
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Should I post here anymore?
by Mindchild inthat is the question i've been asking myself.
i'm not trolling for attention with this post.
nobody has hurt my feelings.
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alliwannadoislive
hey skips - my pennys worth ...
i love long posts, but i have a short attention span - what i do is copy and paste them into word - then print them out on a three column landscape document and spend the next few days reading them - i've done this with a lot of your work and my (now full) file is currently sitting with my ex-mother-in-law who is getting some encouragement out of it afresh
please don't think you (or any others listening) are wasting your time here - i certainly appreciate it :)
When you lose small mind, you free your life ... (© Serj Tankian, Daron Malakian)
(edited for typos ... sorry)
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My Disassociation Letter - Should I post it ?
by alliwannadoislive infriends,.
i posted a question in november on whether i should da - and i got a surprising level of response - i was also swayed towards not 'playing the wt game'.. however, i feel i want closure.. please see below the letter i have just finished writing - i plan to post it later this week, but would like to know your opinions:.
1) should i send it - yes or no.
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alliwannadoislive
hey jeff - thank you for that - it IS encouraging that you have never regretted it - luckily for me, my family is out with me :)
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My Disassociation Letter - Should I post it ?
by alliwannadoislive infriends,.
i posted a question in november on whether i should da - and i got a surprising level of response - i was also swayed towards not 'playing the wt game'.. however, i feel i want closure.. please see below the letter i have just finished writing - i plan to post it later this week, but would like to know your opinions:.
1) should i send it - yes or no.
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alliwannadoislive
Friends,
I posted a question in November on whether I should DA - and I got a surprising level of response - I was also swayed towards not 'playing the WT game'.
However, I feel I want closure.
Please see below the letter I have just finished writing - I plan to post it later this week, but would like to know your opinions:
1) Should I send it - Yes or No
2) If you say yes - can you suggest any amendments I ought to make ?Thanks
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8th January 2002
Dear XXXXI am sorry that I haven’t spoken to you in ages. I have been feeling guilty about not being around when you call.
Along with my apologies also come my thanks and appreciation for your determination in maintaining contact with me.
I haven’t associated with the congregation for some years now, in fact not since 1997. Throughout these years, I have continued to maintain a belief and confidence in Jehovah. I would say that you and a few others have helped me in that respect. The ones I would particularly single out apart from yourself are XXXX, XXXX and XXXX. Each of you have displayed what comes across to me as a Christian kindness and concern. Some others have, I regret to say, shunned me and my children.
As you know, I have had a great plague brought down upon my family, and try as I have, I cannot help but think that this would not have happened if my family had been protected from ‘wolves disguised as sheep’. I can understand the Societies rules on maintaining confidence with personal information, but this policy placed my marriage and family in grave danger. I have since found out that XXXX had ‘history’ of destroying families, yet nobody at any time approached me and told me of the extreme danger that was posed.
I do not view anyone as personally responsible for what happened except the perpetrator. I would hate for you or anyone else to blame yourselves, but I would hope that a policy change in the organisation would come about. How many more innocent people and their marriages, families and children have to be placed at risk before something is done about it ?
XXXX, I truly appreciate the time and effort you have spent in delivering the Watchtower and Awake! magazines to me. They have served to reassure me of Jehovah’s existence and my faith in him.
However, issues have been emerging for me for a while now that have caused me concern. These include further changes and ‘new understandings’ relating to the use of blood products and another, although relatively minor, the appropriateness of voting in political elections. The arguments delivered through ‘Questions from readers’ and set out in long complex explanations remind me of Matt 23:24 which reads ‘… who strain out the gnat but gulp down the camel.’ Especially as, reading between the lines, these changes are being brought about by what appears to me as Political manoeuvering rather than spiritual enlightenment.
The United Nations
What really has shaken my confidence in the Society though is the news that was reported in ‘The Guardian’. I collected the following from the Guardian website :
Jehovah's Witnesses link to UN queried
Sect accused of hypocrisy over association with organisation it has demonised.
Stephen Bates, religious affairs correspondent
The Guardian Monday October 8, 2001The United Nations is being asked to investigate why it has granted associate status to the Jehovah's Witnesses, the fundamentalist US-based Christian sect, which regards it as the scarlet beast predicted in the Book of Revelation.
The UN itself admitted yesterday that it was surprised that the sect, whose formal name is the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, had been accepted on its list of non-governmental organisations for the last 10 years.
The Watchtower Society has been denouncing the UN and its predecessor the League of Nations for 80 years, believing them to be a world empire of false religion, predicted in the Book of Revelation.
Being a recognised NGO with the United Nations - as more than 1,500 organisations are - gives status though not grants. To qualify, organisations must show that they share the ideals of the charter, operate on a non-profit basis, "demonstrate interest in UN issues and proven ability to reach large or specialised audiences" and have the commitment and means to conduct effective information programmes about UN activities.
Paul Gillies, the Witnesses' spokesman in Britain, said: "We do not have hostile attitudes to governing bodies and if we are making representations on issues to the UN we will do so."
"There are good and bad bodies just as there are good and bad politicians. We believe what the Book of Revelation tells us but we do not actively try to change the political system."A spokeswoman for the UN said: "I think we may not be aware of their attitude, which seems to be really strange."
I can recognise the words within the report that are incorrect, but the actual facts reported are that the Society has been associated with the United Nations since 1991. The Society have since admitted this and have given reasons for their association. However, based on their teachings to me over the past 20 years, I find it absolutely unacceptable
If I or any other one of Jehovah’s Witnesses had done this, then we would have been disfellowshipped. This whole situation smacks of hypocrisy and removes all illusions I had of an organisation true to Jehovah. Either the United Nations is the ‘disgusting thing … standing in a holy place’ or it is not. Either way, I believe the Society have unforgivably compromised themselves.
The Society has in the meantime resigned their membership.
My dedication to Jehovah
I dedicated my life to Jehovah before the public declaration was changed to one of subjecting oneself to an earthly organisation. I believe that a day will come when I will have to explain my choices and behaviour before God, and I would like the choices I have made to be ones I have made myself and not those of someone who has written something today and will change it to something else tomorrow.
I understand that this letter will identify me as someone with independent thinking. However, I find reassurance in the words of Galileo Galilei:
‘I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.’
I now know that I wish to permanently disassociate myself from the international organisation known as ‘Jehovah’s Witnesses’. Luke 6:22,23.
It’s with a heavy heart that I choose to disassociate from people such as yourself XXXX, that I have the greatest of respect for. I do not and never would seek to weaken your faith or to work against you.
May Jehovah continue to bless you and your family as well as the ones in the congregation who truly serve the one true God.
Yours sincerely,
alliwannadoislive
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SERIOUS ??? for the discerning JW who LOVE TRUTH
by Will Power ingood day all.
a few serious questions.
topics are chosen only to make the answers quick and easy.
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alliwannadoislive
good points will, and i sign up to the spirit of it - not sure about the disfellowshipping in 1913 and 1920 though - was it in existence then ? ... heh-heh, i like the Truth™
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To Jayhawk - Proclaimers Book Quotes
by YoYoMama inc. t. russell had been critical of those who had set various dates for the lords return, such as william miller and some second adventist groups.
*** jv 61-3 6 a time of testing (1914-1918) ***.
the years from 1914 to 1918 did, indeed, prove to be a testing season for the bible students.
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alliwannadoislive
um .. yoyo ... i think you'll find that, in posting these you have breached watchtower copyright, gone against their express requests that their copyrighted materials are not reproduced (even by well meaning people) and could quite possibly be disfellowshipped ...
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Is Watchtower Literature inspired?
by YoYoMama inthe question.
is all watchtower articles, books, etc.
inspired by god as the bible was?
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alliwannadoislive
OOH - VERY RECENTLY THEN ...
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Armageddon: Your Opinion Please
by teenyuck inif you believe armageddon is coming, a few questions:.
armageddon: what is your belief of how your life will be immediatly following armageddon?
what is your belief of how your life will be within 1-5 years of armageddon?
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alliwannadoislive
i'm with mulan on this - what armageddon ?