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  WTS Official Spin on monthly Awake: 'More emphasis on the Bible!'

  by Neo in

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  2. friends

  the march 2005 kingdom ministry brings up a full article about the awake only being published once a month, starting january 2006. .

  but the fun thing is the roundabout way this change is announced.

  knowing that the news would be a bitter pill to swallow (there should be a 'speeding up' of the preaching work, not a downsizing), the watchtower only announces the move to monthly publishing by the end of the article.

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  Yes, I wonder if it could be for financial reasons they are cutting back. I would like to see a scan of the article if possible.
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  Children still traumatized one year after viewing exposed breast on TV

  by IronGland in

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  washington, dc?as the nation approaches the one-year anniversary of the super bowl xxxviii tragedy, an fcc study shows that millions of u.s. children were severely traumatized by the exposure to a partially nude female breast during the feb. 1, 2004 halftime show.. .

  "no one who lived through that day is likely to forget the horror," said noted child therapist dr. eli wasserbaum.

  ""but it was especially hard on the children.".

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  Strange how kids in other countries were not affected. LOL
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  Jim Penton

  by Greenpalmtreestillmine in

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  jim penton wrote on channel c:.

  "posted by jimpenton on sun - oct 31 - 6:48pm: .

  .... therefore, i want to devote the last years of my life (i am 72)to more positive, upbuilding activities such as giving a testimony to my faith through manifesting the fruits of the spirit, attempting to minister to the widows and orphans in their affliction, and to giving a positive witness through my writing.

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  Jim or anyone else can only do so much. You cannot be everywhere and do everything at the same time.
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  OK, I HAVE to meet with the judicial committee. Advice?

  by AlmostAtheist in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey guys,.

  " you say, "no you don't, you mind-controlled idiot.

  tell 'em to fark off.

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  toreador

  Could be.
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  OK, I HAVE to meet with the judicial committee. Advice?

  by AlmostAtheist in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey guys,.

  " you say, "no you don't, you mind-controlled idiot.

  tell 'em to fark off.

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  toreador

  That was a great letter!
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  Research on the validity of 1914

  by Bluegrass Tom in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  here are a few facts that i have recently discovered by doing some research.. the watchtower society uses the date of 539 b.c.e as the date that cyrus took over babylon.

  they use the term "absolute date" to define this as an unquestionable point in time.

  to do this they had to ignore 586 b.c.e which is the real date for the destruction of jerusalem.. therefore, if jerusalem never lay desolate for 70 years, when does this desolation and fulfillment of this prophecy take place?

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  tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock.

  You might be waiting a while Hillary.
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  The Global Flood

  by coldfish in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've just read an intersting article on the flood to do with dates and whether is was truly global or a regional flood.. http://www.commentarypress.com/essay-flood.html.

  my father used to be an elder for many years and the flood was one of the things that made him walk away not just from the jw but also belief in the bible.

  he was hung up on issues like the flood taking place about 3500 bc and how that fit in with the pyramids.. i don't know much about egyptian history or the ages of the big pyramids, but his reasoning was if the flood wiped out every human on earth except noah etc then at 3500 bc there were only 8 people on earth.

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  Hello,

  Achristian wrote,

  I don't think that the Holy Spirit has helped all of the people who now claim to have received such help. Neither do I believe those who have been helped to understand some things correctly by the Holy Spirit have been helped by the Holy Spirit to understand all of the things they now understand.

  In other words, some people arrived at all of their beliefs without any help from God. And some people arrived at only some of their beliefs with His help. That leaves room for an an awful lot of false doctrine.

  What you are saying then is there is absolutely no way to tell what is false and what is true. I agree with you.

  But I would say what good is the holy spirit as sometimes its there and sometimes it isnt, no way of telling. It could be just a figment of an active imagination

  Toreador
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  The Global Flood

  by coldfish in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've just read an intersting article on the flood to do with dates and whether is was truly global or a regional flood.. http://www.commentarypress.com/essay-flood.html.

  my father used to be an elder for many years and the flood was one of the things that made him walk away not just from the jw but also belief in the bible.

  he was hung up on issues like the flood taking place about 3500 bc and how that fit in with the pyramids.. i don't know much about egyptian history or the ages of the big pyramids, but his reasoning was if the flood wiped out every human on earth except noah etc then at 3500 bc there were only 8 people on earth.

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  double post
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  Research on the validity of 1914

  by Bluegrass Tom in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  here are a few facts that i have recently discovered by doing some research.. the watchtower society uses the date of 539 b.c.e as the date that cyrus took over babylon.

  they use the term "absolute date" to define this as an unquestionable point in time.

  to do this they had to ignore 586 b.c.e which is the real date for the destruction of jerusalem.. therefore, if jerusalem never lay desolate for 70 years, when does this desolation and fulfillment of this prophecy take place?

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  Hello,

  You wrote,

  I don't think that the Holy Spirit has helped all of the people who now claim to have received such help. Neither do I believe those who have been helped to understand some things correctly by the Holy Spirit have been helped by the Holy Spirit to understand all of the things they now understand.

  In other words, some people arrived at all of their beliefs without any help from God. And some people arrived at only some of their beliefs with His help. That leaves room for an an awful lot of false doctrine.

  What you are saying then is there is absolutely no way to tell what is false and what is true. I agree with you.

  But I would say what good is the holy spirit as sometimes its there and sometimes it isnt, no way of telling. It could be just a figment of an active imagination

  Toreador
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  The Global Flood

  by coldfish in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've just read an intersting article on the flood to do with dates and whether is was truly global or a regional flood.. http://www.commentarypress.com/essay-flood.html.

  my father used to be an elder for many years and the flood was one of the things that made him walk away not just from the jw but also belief in the bible.

  he was hung up on issues like the flood taking place about 3500 bc and how that fit in with the pyramids.. i don't know much about egyptian history or the ages of the big pyramids, but his reasoning was if the flood wiped out every human on earth except noah etc then at 3500 bc there were only 8 people on earth.

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  toreador

  Toreador,

  You asked? Do you think the holy spirit has helped you to figure out the 400 thing you have going on here.

  Christian replied

  Yes, but no more than God helps others who ask Him for His help in understanding things.

  I have a hard time observing the reality of the holy spirit guiding people to understanding. Too much false doctrine and too many religions, each one claiming spirit direction and understanding.

  Toreador