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  Gave 586/587 evidence to elder today

  by SeymourButts in

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  i decided to take the big gamble today and stopped to visit an elder relative of mine.

  the gamble wasn't the visit, but what i did while there.

  i am many years da'd, but still have a fairly good relationship with most of my family.

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  Good Job!
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  The New OM Book? Don't Waste Your Time.

  by metatron in

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  i zipped thru the new organization book and can tell you that it's a waste of trees.. i think that the updated section on df'ing is mostly just a legalistic response to distance.

  themselves from any potential defamation charges, by default.. it downplays the blood issue and 'worldly' holidays but almost none of that matters.. why?

  because in the end, the sservice dept calls the shots.

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  Good post Metatron
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  JW Ben wants proof the WTBTS is in direct violation of Jesus' teachings

  by Honesty in

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  in your post to me you said.... .

  "the wtbts is teaching a truth and a law code that is in direct violation of what jesus taught.." .

  alright start a thread that clearly demonstartes that thw wtbts is teaching a truth and a law code that is in direct violation of what jesus taught

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  All good suggestions.
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  Quotes by Thiele concerning Watchtower Chronology

  by VM44 in

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  2. bible

  does anyone know where is is documented that thiele made the following quotes?

  as bible scholar e. r. thiele said about a watchtower article on chronology, "it reminds me of the way an unscrupulous lawyer would deal with facts in order to support a case he knows not to be sound.

  http://www.geocities.com/athens/academy/6040/kc.htm

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  scholar pretendus cum mentula flaccidus.

  Ok, what language is that and what does it mean?
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  WATCHMAN IS DISFELLOWSHIPPED UNDER NEW POLICY/NEW BOOK!!!

  by bjc2read in

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  watchman, as many know from reformer websites such as (1) e-watchman.com and (2) e-jehovahs-witnesses.com discussion board, has been officially disfellowshipped from all congregations of jehovah's witnesses!.

  here is the link to the sudden change in status for him: .

  http://www.e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/viewtopic.php?p=41406&sid=196154f73a3336c977fb1315fb5183e4#41406.

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  I wonder how many active JWs read EWatchman?
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  Quotes by Thiele concerning Watchtower Chronology

  by VM44 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  does anyone know where is is documented that thiele made the following quotes?

  as bible scholar e. r. thiele said about a watchtower article on chronology, "it reminds me of the way an unscrupulous lawyer would deal with facts in order to support a case he knows not to be sound.

  http://www.geocities.com/athens/academy/6040/kc.htm

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  demonic excrement

  Didnt I read that once in a Watchtower?

  Tor
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  New DF/DA Policy?

  by new light in

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  2. beliefs

  would someone who has the new od book explain any changes in "keeping the congregation clean"?

  is it still the same policy or have they actually changed anything?

  i'd especially like to know if they are changing their tune on the "inactive".

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  The new OM Book.

  by The Thinker in

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  on sunday they released the new version of the om book.

  ( i'm not sure if they still call it the om book) but i got myself 3 copies.

  i might sell one of them.

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  Is it more difficult to scan a hard cover book than it is a paperback?

  No it isnt but it may not lay as flat and therefore be a little distorted where the page leaves the flat surface and curves up. Tor
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  New DF/DA Policy?

  by new light in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  would someone who has the new od book explain any changes in "keeping the congregation clean"?

  is it still the same policy or have they actually changed anything?

  i'd especially like to know if they are changing their tune on the "inactive".

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  How can they take away a persons baptism? Isnt this in effect what they are doing when they think they can judge you are no longer a JW? I dont get it. Isnt this admitting to all that you are simply baptized into an organization and has nothing to do with baptism in the name of the father son and holy spirit?
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  Is the society shooting themselves in the foot with the new DF policy?

  by truth_about_the_truth in

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  2. beliefs

  let's face it, it seems like a simplification of the df process as many of you have already mentioned.. within the 6 million or so jw worldwide, there has to be a good number of ppl that are on the fringes of being dfed.

  in the past, it took time to technically df these ppl because of the no-shows at judicial hearings and appeals.

  also dfing a person can be delayed when no actual proof can be provided of the sin committed.

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  How can they take away a persons baptism? Isnt this in effect what they are doing when they think they can judge you are no longer a JW? I dont get it. Isnt this admitting to all that you are simply baptized into an organization and has nothing to do with baptism in the name of the father son and holy spirit?