Posts by Hunyadi

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I'm stupid, whats the biggest mistake you've ever made?

by dustyb in

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so who all here makes mistakes?

my single biggest mistake was being born...otherwise i'd have to say that my biggest mistake was taking up a hobby in extreme sports such as riding motorcycles and mountain bikes down buzy streets, and skateboarding.

doing all of this while i have a bone disease that severely limits my mobility now and in the future..... also posting my previous topic was retarded =d

Hunyadi

"my single biggest mistake was being born...otherwise i'd have to say that my biggest mistake was taking up a hobby in extreme sports such as riding motorcycles and mountain bikes down buzy streets, and skateboarding. doing all of this while i have a bone disease that severely limits my mobility now and in the future...."

Yes, bud, give the harshness with yourself a rest. While I am sure we all can daily look around at some people in this world and think, "stupid", it takes all the fun out of it when someone willingly cops to it. (JUST KIDDING) But yes, my friend, you should know and accept your limitations, we all should, until you can find a modified or safer way to enjoy those types of activities. I admire your gumpshun.

I think I have yet to make my biggest mistake, but we will see. To date, my biggest screw-up was getting married to an ignorant kook the first time around. Neither I, nor my wonderful kids, will never have a moments rest until that lady is on permanent life support.

H

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How to take down the WTS. Maybe for good.

by avishai in

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i just heard the most brilliant plan ever.

we draft an all purpose legal document to send to the wts stating that "i,__________ do not want any jw's ever coming to my door, please put me on the do not call list and send this to the congregation nearest me, if they do, i will construe this as harrasment and act accordingly" .

then we pass these out, do a mass mailing, give them to all of our friends, encourage people to make copies and give them to their friends, call it the sleep in on saturday document.

Hunyadi

Count me in.

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Letter to all congregations Feb 18, 2004

by Puternut in

to all congregations of jehovah's witnesses feb 18, 2004. .

re: important changes and announcements.

dear brothers,.

Hunyadi

Great letter, Puternut. I am thinking of making some copies and posting them on the congregations bullitin boards around town (Just kidding).

H

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Spankings In The KH Bathroom

by Hunyadi in

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oh, how many times have we heard the loud hard spankings of toddlers' and preschool aged children by their parents for making noise at the meetings echo from inside of the kingdom hall restrooms?

until now it was a memory i had forgotten, but it really bugs me now.. hunyadi

Hunyadi

Oh, how many times have we heard the loud hard spankings of toddlers' and preschool aged children by their parents for making noise at the meetings echo from inside of the Kingdom Hall restrooms? Until now it was a memory I had forgotten, but it really bugs me now.

Hunyadi

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Never Told Anyone this...

by gespro in

... but i think it would help me to relate it now.. a day before a big convention in montreal [i must've been 8 years old] my mother, who was running late as usual, was trying to get ready for an appointment.

she was frantic and needed the bathroom mirror.

i'm sitting on the commode and i remember finding a thrown out metal flimsy paper towel rack in the garbage so, i pick it up and i'm trying to bend it around, my mother storms into the bathroom, grabs the towel rack and screams, 'you know i'm in a hurry' and bashes my head in on top!

Hunyadi

My mother received "the truth" just before I was born. My older brother now relates to me that she was much different before then. I always knew her as an angry woman, yet my bro explains how she was not wound so tite prior to studying. I watched the same transformation in my exwife as she began to study and get baptized. Before, she was normal and happy, and now, she is an angry lunatic, and she became so bad that CPS assisted in the removal of our children from her JW home and placed them into my care. She is constantly telling the children at ever opportunity how I will die at armageddon and how I am evil and under Satan's control. My aunt is the same and I know there is a pattern.

When I was a young boy, I would often find my mom in an angry trance-like state. If I were to ask her for something to eat, for example, she would snap out of her glazed-eyed anger trance and scream at me violently. I would have preferred a smack instead for she crushed my spirit in ways she cannot ever know.

Thanks for your story, I appreciated it and I feel it too.

Hunyadi

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THEY REALLY ANCHORED YOUR HEAD WITH NONSENSE

by ese in

yo - do u see yourself - obsessing about the wtbts or whatever the hell they call themselves - all this beautiful intellect spent on thoughts of an alleged abuser u all allegedly left - oh my - free yourselves - you didn't leave - u r all in this funky stage of mourning and hatred and realization that not all lovers are true - but, forgive my rambling - i have a question here, what do you think they did to mess with your minds so much that u r still obsessing?

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Hunyadi

" . . . i want to understand the emotional part of it, seriously, is it a realization of some great betrayal?"

From birth, I was indoctrinated into a cult that targets vulnerable, ignorant and uneducated people struggling and grasping for something good and hopeful. They fill your head with thoughts and images of demons, death and destruction. They tell you that the end of the this system of things is always tomorrow or just around the corner, and endeavoring to accomplish anything aside from attending five meetings a week and going from door to door selling the Watchtower and Awake magazines and starting "Bible studies" at your own expense is a total waste of time. They cheat us of our youth, education, intelligence and healthy ambition in order to serve them and their doctrinal mood swings. We must must believe unconditionally and without question while instructed to pick apart the beliefs of others, asking all others outside the faith to question their faith, yet we must never question the "spiritual food" imparted from the governing body of JW's since it is Jehovah himself who is instructing us. We must totally turn our backs on our friends and family members, no matter what, if those loved ones should become somehow disapproved by the wtbts; this includes our children and parents, our brothers and sisters. The religeon is filled with nuerotics and fanatics, hyppocrites and liars, child molestors and abusers. All the while they say, "we follow the true god, and he has revealed His truth only to us to give to the rest of mankind", but you are not allowed to form relationships with anyone outside of the organization since they are under Satan's control. And you get this same bullshit pumped into your head all week long at the Kingdom Hall and you are "encouraged" to pump the same bullshit into your own head through personal study at home and pump it into your kids head constantly while not at the formal meetings. It is the JW mantra without the chanting, trance and incense. We were all brainwashed not to take personal responsibility for our actions but to blame Satan for our hardships; that it is he who is testing us and trying to lead us away from the true god, Jehovah.

I escaped after 36 years, which is no small feat. Some never do. Was I betrayed and lied to? You bet, as was my mother and her mother. I take my children with me so that they are not cheated of their potential and success, not just in a material world, but in their emotional and spiritual lives, and their relationships with others as well.

Most of the people who come to this message board are injured and recovering from many years and even a lifetime of spiritual and emotional abuse that they were always, until now, strong enough to walk away from. But the scars never completely go away no matter what. Many of us are spiritually shell-shocked and will spend the rest of our lives recovering from the lies and deceptions unwittingly heaped upon us by the the WTBTS through friends and family members, those we trusted.

So if you really want to understand; you now have a synopsis of the turmoil and its cause. If you are just here to tell us all to get over it, you can just go "bed" yourself.

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JWS using questionaire clipboards

by badboy in

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i have once or twice seen jws using a questionaire clipboard with pencils.. any1 know anything about this?

Hunyadi

I use to use the old clipboard and survey trick to warm up my customers when I was in direct sales. It is a proven method to find out a person's "buying habbits" so you know how to approach them with your product or service, or find out if they even have a need for your product so that you wont waste your pitch on a lame prospect. sly.

H

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1 wish,no more, no less........

by ScoobySnax in

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no exceptions......... " i wish i could come up with better starter questions than minimus......".

your go........ (one wish remember)

Hunyadi

I wish I could have my youth back with extreme disdain for JW's knockin at my door.

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Young People Ask... ANSWERS THAT SUCK.

by shamus in

remember that stupid book that they had, "young people ask, answers that work are weird?

minimus just mentioned it in a thread.... they have that young people ask section in the awake!

magazines.

Hunyadi

He he I never had a problem with bullies either. I was the youngest of five brothers, all mean sob's, and I learned how to take care of myself. Masturbation, (on the other hand) . . . my loophole was a "hands-free" system, ha ha. If you don't touch it, it isn't masturbation.

H

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what do you believe???

by walker22 in

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i have been df for a nummber of years now and have recently been doing research via the web for the past few weeks.

mostly because my new husband has been also doing his own research because i have been saying for years i want to go back, but never have and he had questions about the religion that he didnt understand.

the only time i ever go to the hall is for the memorial.

Hunyadi

My question is do you still believe some of the teachings, and do you fear dying at armageddon if you dont return???

Well, I was df'd 14 years ago, for smoking, and like you I have thought about going back until I was forced to answer for myself some pretty tough questions (unrelated to subliminal art in the WT publications, he he).

Do I think the GB is full of it? Yes! Do I resent the fear, terror, nightmares, guilt, and lies heaped upon me since childhood? You bet. Do I sometimes slip into worrying that I will, like they say, die at Ameddy? At least once a day . . . then I laugh and let it go. If I die, then I get to stand in line in hell and wait my turn to punch each member of the GB in the nuts. Can't wait. But now after 36 years in their "truth" I am finally liberated and I get to move on. Many who have replied to you thus far are on target with what they say.

Do I still believe in some of the teachings? Yes, definitely. Just because I left the organization, it does not mean I no longer believe in the Bible or God unlike some who have swung from one extreme to the other, putting men and science opon the alter for worship. As far as the truth goes, even CT Russell said, and I am paraphrasing, that even Satan knows what the truth is and can speak it freely when it suits his own purposes, and I believe that the org has hit on a few Bible truths, but like Satan, has used it for their own benefit and advantage.

I have teens who still attend the meetings, go out in field service, ect. . . . and I am trying to ween them and carerully deprogram them so that they do not have to put up with the crap most of us did growing up in the "truth". They still go simply because, my exwife, their mother, is a neurotic fanatic and guilts them into going whenever they go over there for visitation; the situation is fragile right now. I will not, however, let them get baptize while still a minor living in my home. Once they are dipped, the elders can screw with their heads and try to force them into making a tramatic decision, like distancing themselves from their "apostate father" under Satan's control. The minute one of those bozos approach one of my kids with some crap like that I am going to go apeshit on them.

It is hard and scarey at first when you "make your mind over' to leave the org for good, but once you do and you take that first breath of freedom, it is goooood. I no longer fear the wrath of the GB's Jehovah, but instead, I am simply confident that HE will deal with me in his own loving and understanding way. My biggest fear was having my children turn against me for being outspoken against the org. They have not tho and I grow more confident each day knowing I have made the right decision.

Take courage and do what is best for you. You seem to be aware that you have your own little support group right here.

Kind Regards,

Hunyadi