hey guys,.
while i was at the meeting at the kingdom hall, (oh so fun!....
) the person giving the sunday talk was talking about paradise and how wonderful it will be.. while trying not to fall asleep it hit me... what happens when the earth fills up with people in paradise?
Yes, we have been told for years that it was Jehovah's purpose to "fill the earth" not over-fill it. So the WTBTS pretty much says that reproductive powers will cease once the earth is filled.
Gosh, how strange to live in a perfect world that is not so perfect since there will be no children . . . guess I am not grasping the deeper things the GB understands.
Hunyadi
is it love, good health, money, etc.?????????????
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The wife and chilluns, hands down!
thought it would be fun to see the array of talent we have here on jwd!
i'll start out.....!
i have my own businesses doing background investigations, skip tracing and public records research out of my home.
Once I decided to leave the organization of JW's, I was completely free to persue my heart's desire, which was music. I come from a long line of non-JW musical prodigies, so it has always been there in my blood. I am 36 and starting late in life, but it has been great so far. I am not only getting to perform in full blown productions, but get to stand shoulder to shoulder with some of the most respected local entertainers in SoCal. I have a small production company that is now growing in which I get to record and produce demo CD's for some very talented vocalists. Life is beginning to work out now that I am free of the org . . . how funny.
Hunyadi
as many of you now know, i was in the mental ward for a breif period.
after i got out of the mental ward, i was placed in group therapy where i am today.
i talked with my therapist today and he mentioned a very interesting fact.
Maybe it's just me, but the JW church leaves you screwed up in the head after you leave.
No. it is not you, friend. Leaving the org can be utterly devastating to your psyche. You are brainwashed and neurotic while inside to begin with, and when you try and break from the hallucination of the org there is tremendous conflict. Anti-depressants, for some, are a good idea for a while until you get through it. But you are not alone.
As a teen, I tried suicide and only one person ever came to see me and express concern. Everyone abandoned me. While under the influence of her mother and stepdad, my teen daughter attempted suicide too in recent years. The elders then sat her down and told her what she needed to do in order to contribute to the peace of the household. (vomits) Her mother and stepfather were blaming her for all that was wrong with their lives and marriage and it was killing her.
Keep going to therapy and keep talking about it because it helps.
Hunyadi
i knew of a couple that left their mates so that they could be with one another.
the elders promptly disfellowshipped them.
the couple made it known immediately, that they were going to apply for reinstatement as soon as possible.
You know, I gotta say in this case, good on those elders
Me too! Whether you are JW or not, it is just a low down slimey thing to do.
H
to all congregations of jehovah's witnesses feb 18, 2004. .
re: important changes and announcements.
dear brothers,.
Hello Bryan,
I am in the same boat. I was raised a JW and I actually brought my exwife into the org way back when. Our children have attended meetings since birth (3 girls), and I now have custody of them because of the abuse going on in their mother's JW home. The middle child, 15, still attends meetings pretty regularly on her own, and I have talked to them many times about my decision to leave the org for good.
I sometimes have the impulse to kidnap my own kid and take her to cult deprogramming experts, but I know I must be patient and let her see things for herself, and I think this will take time. The other two girls are at the point where they see it all as bs and they attend meetings only sometimes if they get board want to go flirt with cute young brothers (it makes me laugh). Hang in there and choose your opportunities to talk to her and have some sort of documentation handy.
As crazy as it might seem, the hidden and subliminal images controversy is what began to open my eyes to the lies. It might be a good place to start. I got creeped out enough to start asking harder and deeper questions about that and other issues, and it sparked some really good conversations with my kids about their experiences with the JW's.
http://members.cox.net/hunyadi/wtbts_001.htm
Good luck and my thoughts are with you.
Hunyadi
Damn... impressive catch... but a bit obsessive compulsive
Ha ha, I know. It has become more of a hobby now. I have become a bit more focussed on the other issues I have been reading about on this board. Some of you folks are the greatest and I am glad to be out with the rest of you fine peeps.
H
Me too is looking for hidden pictures and I know there are many within the printed matters of WTS.
I have quite a few more that I can't show on my site because the hidden images do not show up clearly on the scan.
H
I always love these things, Hunyadi - and have you already commented on the many faces in the water in the inside back cover of the Insight Volume I, especially the trolly-looking one on the lower right?
I have looked over the artwork in that volume, but really can't see anything remarkable . . . but you never know.
(The picture in your post identifies this as coming from the Insight Vol. II, which is correct; you just made a little boo-boo at the top, calling it Insight Vol. I. But because of this, I looked at Insight Volume I as well. Take a look for me please.)
Thanks for the correction.
Hunyadi
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