From where did you hear this information, Blondie?
Hunyadi
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WT federal money
by peacefulpete ini just learned that the wt has recently begun a tv ad campaign to reimage themselves as family counselors.
does anyone have details about the content of these commercials?
is this new direction for the org.
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Noah's Ark and Tapeworms??
by Sargon inthis is to anyone who actually believes this silly myth.
a few questions about parasites:.
were these gathered two by two, since in many cases only one is required to breed?.
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Dogs
by cruzanheart inthe reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of .
his tongue.. -anonymous don't accept your dog's admiration as conclusive evidence that you are .
wonderful.. -ann landers if there are no dogs in heaven, then when i die i want to go where they .
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Hunyadi
::sobbing and singing "Old Shep"::
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Most Popular JW Jobs???
by Funchback inwhat are some of the more popular jobs jws seem to flock to in your opinion?
personally, the latest trend in my area is school bus driver as well as school bus monitor.
i can think of six jws who drive school buses and two who are monitors.
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Hunyadi
Two of the elders in my congregation worked as US MAIL carriers. Two other brothers were carpet steam cleaners . . . but JANITORIAL takes the cake for most popular in my home town of San Diego, Ca.
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Poll for the men. Women feel free to comment.
by FlyingHighNow inthis poll is inspired by comments on maverick's spoiled women thread.
are you currently married or coupled to/with a american/canadian/british/european/scandinavian who is also a white/caucasion woman?
are you happily or unhappily married/coupled?
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Hunyadi
- Are you currently married or coupled to/with a white/caucasion American/Canadian/British/European/Scandinavian woman?
- Are you happily or unhappily married/coupled?
- Why are you happy or unhappy in your marriage/couple?
- If you are happy or unhappy in your marriage/relationship, does it have anything to do with the race, background or culture of your wife/partner? Or is it her as an individual that keeps your interest or doesn't keep it?
- If you are man who is divorced from a white/caucasion woman, do you date white/caucasion women now? Do you exclusively date women of other races?
- If you date women of other races and cultures, do you do it because they are subservient?
- How many of you guys prefer an intelligent, confident, independent and loving woman of any culture to a subservient woman of any culture?
- Are there any non white men here prefer white women over other races and cultures of women? If so, please tell us why.
Married to a mixed or multi-national American woman: Hawaiian, Chinese, Welch.
Very happily married.
We are happy together because: 1. similar values and compatability 2. similar goals 3. great communication and listening skills. THE GREATEST REASON, however, is that we understood from the beginning that neither one of us could ever, would ever or should ever try to change the other. We never threaten the end of the relationship no matter what happens. We never fight about money. Both of us ask ourselves on a daily basis what we can do to contribute to the relationship rather than what are we getting out of it.
The quality of our relationship has nothing to do with race as far as I can tell. We simply have the same values and similar life experiences. We are best friends on top of having great sex (ha ha). Each mutually adores the other and we hang on each other's every word. There is lots of humor and patience on both our parts.
My wife is confident and self-reliant. It is what makes her confident and strong. We share all the household duties and while she defers to me in many things, she is far from subserviant. Just the opposite, really. She is willing to do just about anything I ask, yet has no problem telling me to shut the F up if I am being a jerk. She is smarter than me, and I know this, therefore, I always confide and consult with her on certain things. I cook, clean, do dishes and laundry, iron my own shirts and dance the Samba, so I don't need a woman to mother me or serve me. I have the occasion to light some candles and cook a romantic meal for us.
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Our Women are spoiled ... and it's our fault!
by Maverick inhere in america we had the most spoiled females on the planet!
american women run the show, guys we are toast!
and i know who to blame!
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Hunyadi
" . . . after-all I am one of the biggest offenders!"
Oh good. Now all of us younger guys looking for a girl with some modest values know who to punch in the nose.
" . . . I am one of the biggest offenders! My daughter is totally spoiled! At age 15, finishing school when Paris. At 16, bought her a car. At 17, took her on a trip to Hawaii and then on to Australia. Let her have free run of the house while I am gone...all summer for the last three years. This Spring, 17 days across Europe. She even has her own seperated section of the house, with her own entrance so she can entertain friends without bothering me at the other end of the house . . . "
Just what do you think you are accomplishing by this? Do you hallucinate that your daughter will love you more?
" . . . And this is typical of what we fathers do for our daughters. The result is that most young guys just can't compete with Daddy Bank! The average young man will have to knock himself out to try to give these ladies the things they are accustom to! And when he does not live up to their standard these girls will get pissed. And stay that way for life!"
The greatest gift a father can give her daughter is a balanced set of values. With regard to what I am about to say, ideally it is the mother that sets the example here:
I teach my girls, as they grow into womanhood, that they must gain their freedom and independence through the demonstration of responsible behavior and good choices. Mistakes are allowed, but repetition of the same mistake is OUT. It is expected of them to finish high school, learn a profession or some skill that will create for them their own bank account. When they turn 16 and want their own car, they must work and save and at least pay for part of it.
When they become women, they should be completely self-reliant, educated, independent, self-assured, empowered and confident. They must never choose a boy friend, fiance or husband based on that man's financial status. They must never be in the position to be dominated, threatened or controlled by the asswhipe husband who makes the money . . . they should have their own money so that in the event that hubby turns into a buttmunch and holds money over their heads in order to control them, they can confidently say, "sorry dear, but you better stop your shite or I am out the door, because I am not going to take your abusive, controlling crap, not for one minute. I have my own car, my own money, and I do love you, but I can leave right now and be just fine monetarily . . . bite me, my love".
How many poor women get stuck in abusive and controlling relationships, having no where to go because the man has all the money and she has little or no education or skills and confidence to make it on her own?
Simon and Garfunkel said it best when they said, "teach your children well . . . "
Hunyadi
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F.Y.I. Elder on the Edge
by avengers ini guess people are waking up.
still "taking the lead" in my congregation with severe .
doubts ?to add to that, this publicity about the child abuse issue .
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Hunyadi
Yes, good for you!
Welcome, by the way.
Hunyadi
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Racism In The Organization
by Hunyadi inon the surface, racism is not suppose to exist in the org.
i have a different experience .
.. i use to work for a brother who was also a general contractor.
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Hunyadi
On the surface, racism is not suppose to exist in the org. I have a different experience . . .
I use to work for a brother who was also a general contractor. Most of his crew were JW's from various trades. I was very young, newly married, and I was working as a general laborer. About six months into my job with this brother, he hired on a former Bethelite named Leo. Leo was living with his Carribean bride, also a former Bethelite, in Tijuana, BC, and commuted each day across the border to the very rich San Diego town of Fairbanks Ranch, CA. My wife at the time was hispanic, and during lunches Leo and I got to know eachother and he graciously invited my wife and I down to his house in Las Playas, Tijuana for a meal and some socializing.
We arrived around noon one Saturday looking forward to meeting Leo's wife. We waited a long time in their dining room, about 20 minutes and were mostly left alone. Finally Leo emerged from the hallway to announce that his wife was on her way out to meet us. It was just weird . . . the wait, the silence, the formal annoucement of his wife about to appear . . .
She entered the dining room, a beautiful dark skinned woman, tall and graceful. She took my breath away. We were introduced and I felt their eyes upon us at all times, scrutinizing, looking for some sort of disapproval that Leo was white and she was black. I only expected her to be Hispanic. It only intrigued me that this white ex-Bethelite brother, also a former elder, and his black Caribean wife were living in Baja California sort of detached from the mainstream it seemed . . . I was 20 years old, did not know or care about shit and I certainly cared not that a white man was married to a black woman. This was Jehovah's organization after all and racism was not even a thought.
The woman was delightful, yet reserved. She spoke a few languages, including spanish, as did Leo, and my curiousity about them living in Baja was satisfied once I understood they were perfectly at home there. Cool. We had what seemed to be a nice visit, then departed for the US that evening.
The rest of the weekend past, then it was back to work. One brother, Greg, asked me what I did over the weekend; just cordial chat amond workmates. I told him that my wife and me went downt to TJ to visit Leo and his wife. He asked, "oh, so Leo's wife is Mexican . . . ?"
Dumbass that I was, I took the bait and said, "Um no, she is from the Caribean . . . ", and left it at that.
Later that day, I was putting tools back into the shed with Leo for lockup when Greg and the son of a north county elder, Grant, stood behind me. I did not hear this, but Grant said audibly in front of Leo, "So, Leo's wife is a nigger, huh?" Again, I did not hear this . . .
The next day, while hanging some heavy-ass stone molding on the eves of the house, Leo attacked me verbally in front of the other brothers and accused me of telling everyone his wife was a nigger. I was floored. I had no idea where his assertions were coming from. He got totally evil on me and I became angry and felt like throwing him off the roof where we were working at the time. Instead, I took him off to the side and asked what the hell was going on. He told me what Grant had said the day before and I was again floored. I fervantly and pleadingly tried to explain what had really happened and he would not believe me no matter what I said. He kept telling me that I was a racist and that I had a big problem. In desperation, I pointed out the my own wife was hispanic, and therefore could not possibly be racist. I was so distressed to think that I could have offended this nice man and his wonderful wife. His response was, "she is just closer to lilly-white than my wife is . . . ". Again, I could have hurt him. I was on the verge of tears.
He finally calmed down enough to tell me that the reason he and his wife left Bethel was because the GB and many of the the other brothers at Bethel were very openly racist. He said that they openly discouraged him from marrying the woman he loved because she was black and it would cause too many problems for everyone. I could not believe him. He said they left Bethel together and moved to Baja where he became an elder in a local congregation where they were more accepted. I could, therefore, see why he was so hyper-sensative, why he had no problem believing I was a racist when Grant, the evil son of an elder, set me up to look like a racist to the man. Leo said it was pretty typical of what he and his wife had experienced while serving together in the org.
Does anyone have any similar stories or experiences about racism in the org . . . ?
Hunyadi
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JW's and Embargoed Technology
by gitasatsangha ini've been thinking of another way to cause trouble for the watchtower.
i don't think one silver bullet will take it down.
it's more of a siege campaign.
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Hunyadi
It seems to me that the best way to "take down" the WTBTS is to expose their erroneous teachings and doctrines just as they have always done to the other religeons . . . surely there must be individuals out there with enough Bible knowledge and insight to expose them. We all sit around typing posts as if we are all that . . . like we know better . . . I have noticed that the one thing that we ex-JW's do not have going for us that the WTBTS has is that we are not organized to do anything other than crying and bitching about what we think they did to us. (don't get me wrong; I have alot to be disenchanted about).
Perhaps an anti-JW cult that goes door-to-door with its own literature to ensure that the JW's never bring in another "new one" might be more formiddable. Perhaps the mass printing and distribution of documentation might be a good start. Anyone want to join me in the anti-JW door-to-door work?
Humorously,
Hunyadi
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A crazy thought....Please humor me!
by Doubtfully Yours ini just got this thought that we're like a huge soap opera to god and other spiritual beings.
if the almighty makes it all perfect and joyful, then how the heck will he/they get entertained?!.
in other words, the almighty powers that be aren't interested in the least bit in making things happy and perfect for all because we're like a huge spectacle for them to watch for ever and ever.. alright, there goes my sanity for today.. dy
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Hunyadi
"If the Almighty makes it all perfect and joyful, then how the heck will he/they get entertained?!"
Forgive me, and I do not mean to be offensive, but that is one of the most moronic questions I have ever heard anyone ask.