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Posts by amac
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28Molestation Policies in OTHER religions
by amac ini, like others on this website and within the jw religion, would like to see the policy on molesters changed so that all accusations are placed in the hands of the authorities to let them investigate.
this aside, it seems that many are intent on attacking the jws over their lack of such a policy.
there is a big difference between reform and "tearing down.
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Molestation Policies in OTHER religions
by amac ini, like others on this website and within the jw religion, would like to see the policy on molesters changed so that all accusations are placed in the hands of the authorities to let them investigate.
this aside, it seems that many are intent on attacking the jws over their lack of such a policy.
there is a big difference between reform and "tearing down.
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amac
Dung -
1) Their policies are NOT more 'strict' and you admitted that yourself. <This is a situation I still have trouble with<.
This makes no sense. If this is an example of what you call logic, then it is no use discussing this further with you.
Does anyone else care to respond to this thread...besides Dungbeetle?
I'm off for the weekend, but I'll be back.
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6000 years of human rule??...HAHAHA.
by refiners fire innow the story goes that god has abandoned humanity to "self rule" for a period of six thousand years.
correct me if im wrong.. now during this time, mankind is supposedly left to rule itself, and fail miserably, thus demonstrating that only theocratic rule can maintain peace, bliss and happiness.. well, i think gods cheated.. in my humble (satanic) opinion, if man is supposedly ruling himself, the god shouldnt be interfering and moulding events.. a big example:.
the tower of babel.. the folk there were working in unity on a project and god decided to .
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amac
I always thought that to be a flaw in the logic of this being a "trial period." Same thing with the flood.
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Let not your eye feel sorry
by dmouse inas i reflect on the increasing number of newspapers reporting the wbtss child abuse scandal today i also note the sudden increase in jw apologists on this board.. this is good, it shows that the issue is making em hurt.
squirm you bastards, squirm!.
now, as anyone who knows me will testify, i am one of the meekest people you will probably ever meet.
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amac
Dung -
Are you following me?Intelligent thought requires entertaining ideas you do not agree with. Intelligent discussion follows in the same manner. You seem to prefer a discussion board where everyone posts things like "The Watchtower SUCKS!!!!! They are EVIL!!!! DOWN WITH THOSE BASTARDS!!!!"
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Molestation Policies in OTHER religions
by amac ini, like others on this website and within the jw religion, would like to see the policy on molesters changed so that all accusations are placed in the hands of the authorities to let them investigate.
this aside, it seems that many are intent on attacking the jws over their lack of such a policy.
there is a big difference between reform and "tearing down.
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amac
Dung -
You have successfully detracted from this thread. My initial post was to bring to question why JWs policies are any worse than any other religions. If anything, they are more defined.
I was not making a defense for their policies, just questioning the purpose of solely attacking them when there are worse offenders out there with much larger "flocks." I even stated in my opening paragraph that I am FOR a reform of the existing policy.You have our verification. You don't have to like it....but you don't have to casr aspersions on it either, that is your choice. And this makes you HOW DIFFERENT FROM WHAT YOU CLAIM US TO BE?
What's this "our" bit? Verification for what? What verification? What are you talking about? Again, please see my above paragraph to learn what this thread is about.you should quit while your ALMOST AHEAD.
Ha! Don't flatter yourself.Cheers,
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Let not your eye feel sorry
by dmouse inas i reflect on the increasing number of newspapers reporting the wbtss child abuse scandal today i also note the sudden increase in jw apologists on this board.. this is good, it shows that the issue is making em hurt.
squirm you bastards, squirm!.
now, as anyone who knows me will testify, i am one of the meekest people you will probably ever meet.
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amac
I find it ironic when JW apologists are lumped together as trolls. Kind of like JWs lumping you lot together as apostates. Why does an opposing viewpoint make someone a troll?
And just because someone is an Apologist, it does not mean they wholeheartedly defend the entire organization. It may just mean that they defend an idealogy, even if they disagree with it, just to get a balanced conclusion.
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Jules Rimet Still Gleamin'.
by Englishman inengland's world cup squad .
england's final 23 for world cup 2002
goalkeepers .
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amac
I'm a yank, brought up by expats. I haven't contributed much, but I will be up in the middle of the night with my dad watching England beat the odds.
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Molestation Policies in OTHER religions
by amac ini, like others on this website and within the jw religion, would like to see the policy on molesters changed so that all accusations are placed in the hands of the authorities to let them investigate.
this aside, it seems that many are intent on attacking the jws over their lack of such a policy.
there is a big difference between reform and "tearing down.
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amac
This part of the article is not dealing with slander. It is dealing with the dissemination of truthful speech that the Watchtower and the elders do not like.
This is not true. It specifically says
They stir up rumors that there is injustice, ethnic prejudice, or the like, in the congregation or on the part of the elders.
Rumors are unverified reports with uncertain reliability. Again, nowhere in this article does it make a connection with the Organization's policies. This article is aimed at squashing rumours and divisions within the congregation due to rumors (and we all know how gossip is always a problem.)
Whether or not elders will stretch this information to use it in the wrong way, I cannot say. I'm sure many will, but that is still beside the point of what the WT organization's policies are.
So the current WT policy does NOT include DFing those who are victims or support victims in child molestation cases. I and my "victim" relative are living examples.
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Molestation Policies in OTHER religions
by amac ini, like others on this website and within the jw religion, would like to see the policy on molesters changed so that all accusations are placed in the hands of the authorities to let them investigate.
this aside, it seems that many are intent on attacking the jws over their lack of such a policy.
there is a big difference between reform and "tearing down.
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amac
Dungbeetle -
Current policy is described in the May 15th 2002 Watchtower.
No it is not. That article talks about slandering others in the congregation, not reporting cases of sexual abuse to the authorities. Nowhere in this article does it make any connection with the WT's policies on handling allegations of sexual abuse. You are detracting from this thread by providing misinformation, a very poor tactic. I've copied the portion of the article you are most likely referring to.
Continuing, Solomon says: “The one in want of heart has despised his own fellowman, but the man of broad discernment is one that keeps silent. The one walking about as a slanderer is uncovering confidential talk, but the one faithful in spirit is covering over a matter. -Proverbs 11:12,13.
What great harm is caused by someone who lacks good judgment, or is "in want of heart"! He carries on his loose talk to the point of slander or reviling. The appointed elders must be quick to put an end to such an unwholesome influence. Unlike "the one in want of heart," a man of discernment knows when to keep silent. Rather than betray a confidence, he covers over the matter. Knowing that an unguarded tongue can cause much harm, a discerning person is "faithful in spirit." He is loyal to fellow believers and does not divulge confidential matters that might endanger them. What a blessing such integrity-keepers are to the congregation!
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Molestation Policies in OTHER religions
by amac ini, like others on this website and within the jw religion, would like to see the policy on molesters changed so that all accusations are placed in the hands of the authorities to let them investigate.
this aside, it seems that many are intent on attacking the jws over their lack of such a policy.
there is a big difference between reform and "tearing down.
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amac
Nathan -
So, ARMAC, as a person who seeks reform of Jehovah's Witnesses, what have YOU done to precipitate such reform?
Nothing yet. My time is mostly spent with my wife and children and the spare bits in supporting the extended family member who is the victim I mentioned. Once this trial is over, I will consider what I can do then. Since we are being personal, what about you?
How much WICKEDNESS are you willing to tolerate from the WTS while you point accusing fingers at "everybody else"?
What WICKEDNESS am I tolerating? Please be specific. I made a generic statement, its not exactly pointing accusing fingers at "everybody else."How many VICTIMS does TRUE RELIGION require?
Zero, but every religion WILL have them, unfortunately.