I haven't seen it yet - I can only get the highlights which will be on tomorrow. But I thought last week at Philip Island was the best race of the season (unless you happened to be that seagull). I was a Rossi fan until I read his autobiography, and now I'm a bit ambivalent about him. I'd still like to see him win the championship this year though, and we do need characters like him to keep things interesting.
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MOTO-GP the Rossi vs Marquez controversy
by wozza inif you've watched the race what do you think about the stoush on the track.. i've always been a rossi fan but after what happened in the race i'm really disappointed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2div26-jqs.
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How many of you left the Org since 2015?
by Paul Bonanno ini have noticed that many lately have left the org or are in the process of leaving.
how many of you have left since 2015?.
this month will be my 21 years out of the org into the road of freedom.
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As a Matter of Conscience, I Am Resigning from the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses
by Sail Away inafter listening to the hearings of the australian royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse, i am no longer content to have simply walked away from the organization.
as a matter of conscience, i do not want my name linked with the organization in any way.
i know this letter has been posted previously, and i thank the author.
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maksutov
Nice. I hope they respect your wishes SailAway, although I would not be at all surprised if they still make an announcement that you are no longer a member. That's great that the solicitor didn't charge you! I got a solicitor to write a similar letter when I was being harrassed by elders 5 years ago, and it cost me £250 for just the one letter (which had no effect, other than to mean that they made an announcement that I was no longer a JW without telling me - they would've told me if I hadn't sent the letter apparently). -
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Did an EX-JW wake you up to TTATT or did you put the effort to wake up yourself?
by John Aquila inhow many of us were woken up by some apostate yelling false prophets at a convention?.
how many of us were woken up by someone holding a sign and yelling, what happened to 1975.
how many of us were coerced to investigate the wt because some ex-jw pulled up a bunch of old watchtowers magazines and told us to read the false predictions?.
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maksutov
I woke up on my own too, and I agree that is the case for most. However, apostates helped me tremendously once I had woken up, and if it wasn't for them, I probably wouldn't have come to understand how dangerous the org is. -
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This is for all JW's out there...
by Divergent in.
sorry to be so blunt, but you only have yourself to blame if you realize something is wrong but allow your cognitive dissonance to kick in.
if you are confronted with facts which are reported by reliable sources which are hard to dispute and deny, and you choose to dismiss these as "apostate lies" rather than looking at these from an objective point of view, it's your fault and you deserve the consequences of willful ignorance!.
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maksutov
I'm not sure it is quite as black-and-white as that. I would agree that it is intellectually dishonest to dismiss evidence just because you don't like what it leads to, but human psychology is such that unless we have some very specific education and strategies in place, we are all susceptible to logical fallacies and manipulation. In order to break free from that, we need to be educated in critical thinking skills, how to spot logical fallacies, and the mechanisms used by manipulators. Sadly, once the manipulation has started, it becomes increasingly difficult for the victim to think rationally - and religious manipulation often starts in childhood. IMHO, critical thinking skills should be a core subject in schools - from primary school level up.
Even when we know about cognitive dissonance though, we are still susceptible to it, and we have to implement strategies to negate the effects of bias. I'd recommend Daniel Kahneman's "Thinking, Fast and Slow" for more insights on that (the author acknowledges that psychologists find themselves falling for the same fallacies that everyone else falls for, even though they are aware of them).
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Stargate SG1: False Gods, False Religion
by JWchange inhas anyone watched this scifi series?
has it helped anyone wake up to ttatt?
i woke up many years ago, however this incredible series reinforces my beliefs about religion.
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maksutov
The Ori were a pretty close match for JWs I think, but sadly, it did not wake me up - I watched it while still in. Great series for its time, but the early episodes look a bit lame now. -
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Stargate SG1: False Gods, False Religion
by JWchange inhas anyone watched this scifi series?
has it helped anyone wake up to ttatt?
i woke up many years ago, however this incredible series reinforces my beliefs about religion.
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maksutov
The Ori were a pretty close match for JWs I think, but sadly, it did not wake me up - I watched it while still in. Great series for its time, but the early episodes look a bit lame now. -
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My Mother Died Two Weeks Ago
by Perry innone of my jehovah's witness relatives called to tell me or my family.
just found out this morning.
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"New Light never contradicts Old Light, but simply adds to it"
by stuckinarut2 indoes anyone remember this classic quote from a society publication??.
i remember it has been quoted many times, but i cant find the reference.. if this comment is to be taken literally, it condemns the organization anytime there has been a complete changes in teachings and doctrine!
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maksutov
stuckinarut2: it condemns the organization anytime there has been a complete changes in teachings and doctrine!
Haven't you heard of "tacking"? lol.
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Annulment of baptism for a minor?
by Tornintwo ini've seen references to baptism annulment on a few websites, does anyone know if there has ever been a successful annulment of a baptism?.
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a minor claims they didn't understand a key wtbts teaching prior to baptism, is there any realistic chance of annulment?
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maksutov
I think they would only consider that if the person wants to be re-baptised (even then, they don't like doing it). As far as I am aware though, they have never issued annulments for those who want to leave.