Although, Mr. Bean, you described my feelings perfectly with my last post.
AMarie
sorry.... i'm chicken shit, ok?.
bwahahahahahaha...
Although, Mr. Bean, you described my feelings perfectly with my last post.
AMarie
sorry.... i'm chicken shit, ok?.
bwahahahahahaha...
My apologies to Simon. I had no idea that he could be sued for things we say or the strong opinions we are expressing regarding this matter.
With this in mind, perhaps we should drop the subject, even if what we are saying is true. If somebody decided to sue me for what I say, they can give it their best shot. But simon shouldn't have to face the repercussions for it.
AMarie
sorry.... i'm chicken shit, ok?.
bwahahahahahaha...
Frenchy said:
"Come on, folks, do we really want to do this?"
You are right Frenchy. Perhaps it isn't the most mature thing to do and could also be harmful to lurkers. I will discontinue the subject for the sake of the lurkers, but am I sorry that I am bashing evil JWs that I used to know? Not at all. It is very rare that I make blanket statements about those in the JW religion and it is also rare that I knit pick at petty little things that I disagree with. I may not agree with their teachings, but I have nothing against them as a whole. They are entitled to their opinions just as much as I am entitled to mine.
However, the men I mentioned above I have a real problem with. They made life hell for me and countless others I knew. Unfortunately, I still am dealing with the backlash of things they said and did. They themselves never held their tongue when it came to slandering others and unfortunately, some of the horrible things they said were believed by many because they were elders.
Perhaps these are things from the past that I need to get over. Maybe it's not the most mature thing to talk about. However, how do we get over our experiences with the JWs if we can't talk about them to anyone?
AMarie
sorry.... i'm chicken shit, ok?.
bwahahahahahaha...
FunkyDerek:
"A "well-known fact" in that he was convicted, or a "well-known fact" of the potentially libellous sort?"
Neither actually. It was known because his kids would come to the meeting crying and bruised up. Two of them actually confided in some of the young people in our congregation about the situation. Nothing was done about it though. We young people didn't know WHAT to do, while the older people turned a blind eye.
AMarie
sorry.... i'm chicken shit, ok?.
bwahahahahahaha...
There was a certain elder in the Lancaster East Congregation, Lancaster, Ohio. He made a small contribution to me leaving the JWs. When I was a teenager, I was confused, lost and making stupid mistakes. Of coarse, I turned to the loving Elders and talked to them about my problems. He was one of the two I spoke with. He ended up blabbing confidental things to one of the Ministerial Servants, John. John's son, Kevin was a very good friend of mine and told me everything the elder had told his father. He had blabbed everything; Details I didn't want anybody knowing. I was so pissed off that I called him to confront him about the matter, and he basically lied to me straight faced, trying to candy coat what he had said.
Another Elder at the Lancaster East Congregation, Lancaster, Ohio. Besides it being a well known fact that he physically abused 4 of his seven kids when they were young, he was another elder who was very judgemental. My two sisters and I went to High School with many of his kids, and our house was along their route home. However, he would not let them give us rides to and from school. The reason? He didn't want his kids giving rides to "those Tigner girls". My two sisters and I had each made mistakes as teenagers, which we confessed to the elders and repented for. He wasn't going to let us live our reputations down though. We each made one mistake and we would be forever viewed as sluts in his eyes. The ironic thing about it is that his kids were no angels. They just knew how to lie and cover their tracks.
AMarie
this is a joke for all you texan posters.
i laughed so hard i was crying after reading this.
hopefully, this isn't an oldie that you have all heard before.. notes from an inexperienced chili taster named frank, who was visiting texas from boston.
This is a joke for all you Texan posters. I laughed so hard I was crying after reading this. Hopefully, this isn't an oldie that you have all heard before.
Notes From An Inexperienced Chili Taster Named FRANK, who was visiting Texas from Boston.
Recently I was honored to be selected as a judge at a chili cook-off. The original person called in sick at the last moment, and I happened to be standing there at the judge's table asking directions to the beer wagon
when the call came. I was assured by the other two
judges (Native Texans) that the chili wouldn't be all that spicy, and besides, they told me I could have free beer during the tasting, so I accepted. Here are the scorecards from the event:
Chili # 1: Mike's Maniac Mobster Monster Chili
JUDGE ONE: A little too heavy on tomato. Amusing kick.
JUDGE TWO: Nice, smooth tomato flavor. Very mild.
FRANK: Holy shit, what the hell is this stuff? You could remove dried paint from your driveway. Took me two beers to put the flames out. I hope that's the worst one. These Texans are crazy.
Chili # 2: Arthur's Afterburner Chili
JUDGE ONE: Smoky, with a hint of pork. Slight jalapeno tang.
JUDGE TWO: Exciting BBQ flavor needs more peppers to be taken seriously.
FRANK: Keep this out of reach of children! I'm not sure what I am supposed to taste besides pain. I had to head off two people who wanted to give me the Heimlich maneuver. They had to rush in more beer when they saw the look on my face.
Chili # 3: Fred's Famous Burn Down the Barn Chili
JUDGE ONE: Excellent firehouse chili! Great kick. Needs more beans.
JUDGE TWO: A bean less chili, a bit salty, good use of red peppers.
FRANK: Call the EPA; I've located a uranium spill. Someone pounded me on the back; now my backbone is in the front part of my chest. I'm getting shit-faced from all the beer.
Chili # 4: Bubba's Black Magic
JUDGE ONE: Black bean chili with almost no spice. Disappointing.
JUDGE TWO: Hint of lime in the black beans. Good side dish for fish or other mild foods, not much of a chili.
FRANK: I felt something scraping across my tongue, but was unable to taste it, is it possible to burnout taste buds? Sally, the barmaid, was standing behind me with fresh refills; that 300 lb. bitch is starting to look
HOT, just like this nuclear-waste I'm eating. Is chili an aphrodisiac?
Chili # 5: Linda's Legal Lip Remover
JUDGE ONE: Meaty, strong chili. Cayenne peppers freshly ground, adding considerable kick. Very impressive.
JUDGE TWO: Chili using shredded beef; could use more tomato. Must admit the cayenne peppers make a strong statement.
FRANK: My ears are ringing, sweat is pouring off my forehead, and I can no longer focus my eyes. I farted, and four people behind me needed paramedics. The contestant seemed offended when I told her that her chili had given me brain damage. Sally saved my tongue from bleeding by pouring beer directly on it from a pitcher. I wonder if I'm burning my lips off? It really pisses me off that the other judges asked me to stop screaming. Screw those rednecks!
Chili # 6: Vera's Very Vegetarian Variety
JUDGE ONE: Thin yet bold vegetarian variety chili. Good balance of spice and peppers.
JUDGE TWO: The best yet. Aggressive use of peppers, onions, and garlic. Superb.
FRANK: My intestines are now a straight pipe filled with gaseous, sulfuric inferno flames. I pooped myself when I farted, and I'm worried it will eat through the chair. No one seems inclined to stand behind me except that slut Sally; she must be kinkier than I thought. Can't feel my lips anymore. I need to wipe my butt with a snow cone!
Chili # 7: Susan's Screaming Sensation Chili
JUDGE ONE: A mediocre chili with too much reliance on canned peppers.
JUDGE TWO: Ho Hum tastes as if the chef literally threw in a can of chili peppers at the last moment. I should note that I am worried about Judge Number 3. He appears to be in a bit of distress as he is cursing
uncontrollably.
FRANK: You could put a grenade in my mouth, pull the pin, and I wouldn't feel a damn thing. I've lost the sight in one eye, and the world sounds like it is made of rushing water. My shirt is covered with chili, which
slid unnoticed out of my mouth. My pants are full of lava-like poop to match my damn shirt. At least during the autopsy they'll know what killed me. I've decided to stop breathing, it's too painful.
outline for service meeting: benefiting from kind provisions .
take a look at: http://watchtower.observer.org/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?nocache=1&dato=20020124&kategori=news&lopenr=201240001&ref=ar.
this is the latest "new light", and this subject has been discussed all over the board, i've heard.. instead of claiming all and everything, i feel it's much better to produce evidence to what the rules really are - and then the jw apologists can simply shut up and accept facts.. i will be interested in comments.. yachyd da.
LOLOL:
Being an exJW, I still agree with sexyteen on this one. You guys are being extremely paranoid and nitpicking at minor things.
AMarie
i would like to take a moment to pay tribute to those giants of apostasy, those pioneers who have paved the way for the rest of us to apostatize in relative comfort and security.
so, with no further introduction, i present my rendition of: .
the apostates (kingdom) hall of fame.
Not to hijack the thread, but I have a question:
Where can I find Kent Stienhaug's sight? (Is this OUR Kent?, the one who posts here?) According to some of your posts above, he seems to be very influential and knows his shit. I'd be interested in learning what his perspective is on JW matters. Any info would be helpful.
AMarie
i've posted several times about how i'm fed up with the witnesses but my wife won't budge.
she's become a bit more tolerant lately, but mostly we get along better when we don't talk about anything substantive.
i've been working up the nerve to tell the elders why i don't go out anymore.
Voltaire:
Even though it isn't "scripturally" right to leave your wife for another woman, do what you feel is best for you, I guess.
My father and mother were happily married until my mother became a JW. Shortly after, they divorced, which always made me angry. I felt like my dad walked out on my mother at the first sign of trouble and that if he really loved her, he would have stuck by her and let her follow her heart.
It wasn't until after I left the JW religion that I understood my father's point of view. If I were him, I wouldn't have stayed with a woman who was always pushing the bible on him and putting his children in danger by not allowing them to accept blood. So I guess I understand where you are coming from.
It sounds to me like you've already made up your mind. Be decisive and take action. Don't beat around the bush with your wife if you really don't love her anymore. I really hope it all works out very well for you.
AMarie
i've posted several times about how i'm fed up with the witnesses but my wife won't budge.
she's become a bit more tolerant lately, but mostly we get along better when we don't talk about anything substantive.
i've been working up the nerve to tell the elders why i don't go out anymore.
Volataire:
I'll probably be unpopular for saying this, but, why don't you give it one last try, eh? I mean, I know there is alot of struggling in your marriage, but do you still love your wife? Yeah, we all go through tough times, but that's what being a husband/wife is about. Sticking together through the good AND bad times. Would it be worth it to loose a MARRIAGE over a little bit of lust for a piece of latin ass, which may not end up lasting anyhow?
I'm not in your shoes, so maybe my advice isn't the best, but if I were you, I would sit down with your wife and have a very serious, honest discussion about where things are going in your marriage, what you each plan to do in the future and if you guys can come to a compromise. On the other hand, if you/she aren't in love anymore or she tells you that it's over if you leave the "troof", leave her. The only compromise that you CAN'T make is that of your own values and what you find important. That's just my opinion.
I hope whatever choice you make brings you great happiness.
AMarie