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  Details on Files Kept in the Cong.

  by Blueblades in

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  what exactly is put into the file on those who are disfellowedshipped?is the information very detailed,so that others can read such details,or is it just that they have been disfellowedshipped.. for example:suppose someone have been df.for a sexual matter,brother or sister.are the details descriptive of what was committed or is just that they were df.i know that on the outside of the envelope the name is posted and that's it.but if someone were to open the folder and look inside can they get the detailed information on that person?.

  when do the elders destroy such folders?can a person who no longer wishes to come back get their records and destroy them themselves?.

  blueblades

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  dustyb

  no kiddin, is there any way that i could get into that little record file and gank a few records?? I think i have a few on me and i need to get my g/f's record and burn it!
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  If You Could've Said Something You Weren't Supposed To Say........

  by minimus in

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  at a meeting-------what would it have been?

  i can imagine making a comment at the watchtower study after reading blondie's review and spouting some of her research from the publications to mess everybody up or give a public talk and say something like," as we all know, the society has blundered many, many dates in the past and given some false prophecies, too-----but that doesn't mean we should stop trusting them, now does it????

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  heh, i would have asked a few questions during the watchtower such as, "how many hours of field service did paul put in accordign to that picture in the watchtower?" or "How is it so evident(sp) that god has a favored blessing towards the watchtower?" or "How do you know what God is thinking?" just something along those lines to make the elders sit in their seats wanting to shoot me :) One other question i'd ask an elder at their study is about their sex lives. They want to know me and my g/f's so bad, i think we should just exchange dirty stories. (as long as the elders wife is hot, muhaha)
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  Knowing What You Know Now---Would YOU Try To Persuade a Potential JW?

  by minimus in

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  .....not to join, have a bible study, and learn more about the "truth" or would you not say anything, believing it's not your business?.

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  i don't have much of a choice. all of my old friends are JW, my mom is a JW and my g/f is JW and her whole family is JW.....so looks like i might as well become a preacher man...heh
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  Were you happy as a witness?

  by JH in

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  the few years that i was an active witness, i can't say that i was very happy.

  i really didn't mind missing a meeting.

  i always felt that a meeting every 2 days for the rest of my life was a little exaggerated.

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  na, i always got cut out of cartoons and such. i would try to lie to myself because everyone else looked so happy, but it didn't work. they shouldn't teach a lot of that stuff to kids...or teach it period.
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  Productive sleep?

  by seattleniceguy in

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  the last few months for me have been quite a journey.

  after i first left the organization in september, i found that my drive to work, to play, even to eat, was shot.

  i was faced with a prospect i had never considered - living out my life in this system of things - and i had no idea what i wanted to do.

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  heh, i don't sleep much cuz of the stupid org, but i have the same dreams kinda. but the thing is i know my g/f will listen to me when i need her, so who knows. i'd say shoot for the stars because if you don't talk to her about it, you won't know what it will become of. iono.....i say dreams are productive enough if they send you a message like that.
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  Witness World discussion about Demonic Influences

  by DevonMcBride in

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  i just saw this on witness world web site and had a few laughs.

  how many of you were this pathetic when you were a witness?

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  dustyb

  kinda makes you wonder on how much jehovah's witnesses hide how much weed they smoke. last time one of my mom's jehovah's witness friends said that i couldn't resist but argue with them for the next 30 minutes...then just to play around with them i followed them around the rest of the day and made sure that everything was rearranged from the way she previously left it. it was funny, but i admit it was mean. but it was to prove a point, that memory doens't serve you right sometimes. shit happens, eh well. next time, buy the weed thats not laced with pcp, it may help =)

  dustin
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  Feb 15 Watchtower: Apostates - Guard Against Deception

  by truthseeker in

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  feb 15 watchtower: apostates - guard against deception

  don't you wish this were the real title of the 2nd study article?

  well, it is, minus the word apostate.

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  ya, thats alwyas what has boggled my mind. The biggest thing that i've alwyas wondered was how can an elder can take a shower with his youth step daughter and keep his standings in the congregation without the faintest hint of wrongdoings, yet when we find faults in the organizatoin, rather than changing them and saying that they**********, they call us apostates, **************, and call the rank-and-files on it saying that they were wrong and shouldn't have listened and there's new light and they should listen to it. it sounds more like the new light is from the lighter they are using to spark their hash bong.... i didn't know that gettin high could produce such great spiritual encounters.

  dustin

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  I Am Mine

  by Euphemism in

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  when the pearl jam single i am mine came out a little over a year ago, i was still a witness.

  it's easy to see why the lyrics appealed to me at a time when i was subconsciously trying to free myself from the mind control.. i know that i was born and i know that i?ll die.. the in between is mine.. i am mine.. .... we?re different behind the eyes, there?s no need to hide .

  .... the sorrow grows bigger when the sorrow's denied.. i only know my mind.. i am mine.. freedom has been a gradual process.

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  one of the songs that made me think about the watchtower would actually have to be metallica - enter sandman. my first metal band that i've ever listened to, first song when i was a little kid. It just resembles it so much, and is so funny.

  Say your prayers, its the one, don't forget my son to include everyone
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  Exit light, enter night
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  take my hand, we're off to never never land.

  it seems like all JW's allow the real light to exit and are encompassed in eternal night or blindness. The GB says "take their hand" or trust them without anything because they're off into their own little rabbit hole. its just so funny how so many songs can make such a big impact on something as big as an organization that tries to hide everything and won't admit it.

  dustin
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  My First New Year's

  by Mysterious in

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  i ended up going to a party with some friends even though i had earlier planned to lay low this year.

  i had an awesome time and showed up at home quite late.

  the whole witness take on new year's that it always is some big drunk event is such crap, it doesn't have to be.

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  i've always celebrated christmas with my grandmother because i'd never say no to her. and i've celebrated new years last year and this year. and i'll tell you what, the watchtower blows the picture up so big that its not funny. if being with family during christmas and having fun w/ friends during new years is wrong, then i don't wnana be right =D they blow it up so much, like a gi joe to the statue of liberty. i alwyas hated the elders telling me when i was little that i was going to be destoryed in armageddon if i continued to associate with my family members and friends during the 2 holidays. stupid legalism, silly elders. eh well, let the good times roll.

  dustin
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  return after being inactive

  by brownlove2000 in

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  what usually happens to inactive witnesses when they try to make a return?

  i have an associate who is and wants to return, what shall i tell him?

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  I am actually in the current situation. I've been inactive for the last 2 years (i'm only 19) and my g/f encouraged me on going back to meetings and to get baptized so we can get married in the future. So me being raised in what everyone calls "the troof", i thought that it would be easy coming back. I'd just have to do everything that i didn't want to do again and do what depressed me so much. So I was encouraged by my own mother to study with an elder that we've known for the past 15 years. We went to lunch to discuss, and i told him everything that i thought i knew (what i was taught by the Watchtower). So we did a "bible study". Actually he started reading me baptism questions to see how much i knew about being a Jehovah's Witness. But my g/f told me to do something, something i've never did before, and thats pray to have a humble attitude and to gain knowledge about "the truth". And i guess thats where i'm at right now. I have been doing this for 4 months, while at the same time doing a critial analysis of the Jehovah's Witness movement. Finally i decided that i'd quit studing with the elder for a few weeks because he was asking me all these stupid questions such as you guys mentioned(like fornication, drinking, smoking, more religous questions, etc etc etc etc and the list goes on), and started concentrating fully on my analysis of the watchtower. my g/f indirectly shown me that it was the major source of my depression when i was a kid and later on when i was a teenager. I mean, what kind of bastards teach a child that they have nothign to live for because the end is so near, so they should study their own literature and do "the watchtower gods" works. I could always remember having to miss my saturday morning cartoons because the bastards wanted to teach me how to go into service and preach the "good news of the kingdom". So I'm saying to hell with that. I'm going to go ask the elder about all these false prophecies and the UN and such, then tell him that i no longer wish to be a part of the Jehovah's Witnesses, and tell him that if he influences my girlfriend to not see me i am going to press legal charges. I mean, where the hell does it say in the bible that we have to report all of our conduct behind closed doors to an elder and tell them every detail (yes we messed up, but we didn't have sex, who ********* cares).

  Recently I had a few witness boys tell me that they knew "the troof" and there was nothing that could change their minds. So i asked them the question, to share it with me. They started bitchign that i was in the snare of satan(the usual WT coverup) and i didn't know who Jehovah' god was (another coverup) and that i was spiritually weak and i shouldn't listen to anybody or anything thats said negatively about the WT(another coverup, especially covered in the feb 15th watchtower). So ah well, so be it. I don't feel the obligation to continue any further studies with the Jehovah's Witnesses because of such control. I'm not goign to have me and my girlfriend ruled over and ridiculed about our conducts now and in the future after we exchange vows.

  I feel better :D

  dustin

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