i have proof that jesus is not god , not in the sight of eyes but in words.
alright check this out!
im not gonna give out too many details only a few, some might agree & some might not agree,.
heh tyre, you beat me to it. i was just about to do that. NWT is very bias in its translations. (btw its a forum and i don't care about spelling =D)
anyways blah blah blah blah. You can go on and on about the diety of christ, but before you do, read daniel 12 or something that actually gives a 1/2 way decent arguement =D
and thats a good question, why are you so worried about jesus if you aren't religious? tyty
i have proof that jesus is not god , not in the sight of eyes but in words.
alright check this out!
im not gonna give out too many details only a few, some might agree & some might not agree,.
lol, i actually don't believe that you've studied james for 12 years. i've studied the bible for about 6 months. and the biggest thing i got out of james was James 2:15-17 where it says that faith without works is dead (in itself). every JW (sounds like you) are trying to use this completely out of context, and its funny. just read the whole book again without any WT material and lets see where you end up.
i have proof that jesus is not god , not in the sight of eyes but in words.
alright check this out!
im not gonna give out too many details only a few, some might agree & some might not agree,.
=) i know that it doesn't matter really. my big point was that any scripture could contradict any other scripture. Context is the only way to look at it.
i have proof that jesus is not god , not in the sight of eyes but in words.
alright check this out!
im not gonna give out too many details only a few, some might agree & some might not agree,.
ok, so thomas understood he wasn't god, yet in John 20:28 he said, "My Lord and My God". (literal greek translation is " the lord of me and the god of me". How is that Thomas understanding that Jesus isn't god? Because if he was swearing he would have been stoned, and Jesus didn't make an effort to correct Thomas. the trinity isn't spoken of in the bible, but the concept of it is. you don't have to call it the trinity, but the concept of the bible is that Jesus was more than a perfect man. Simply put, the Jews didn't think Jesus was God, and thats why they killed Jesus, because he was doing "Godly works". He was forgiving sins, healing people of sickness, bringing people to life, knowing all, seeing all.....attributes of that only god would have. I know that i'm not going to change your mind, i'm just trying to correct you on something that you say that Jesus' disciples knew he wasn't god. Also, read Colossians 2:9, it says "divine qualities dwells bodily", which further supports that Jesus was more than a perfect man. g'day.
dusty
i have been reading the different topics listed here for a few months.
i will apologize at this point because i am basically illiterate when it comes to this posting stuff.
i am an exjw.
heh i know how it is. sup.
i have proof that jesus is not god , not in the sight of eyes but in words.
alright check this out!
im not gonna give out too many details only a few, some might agree & some might not agree,.
oh and, if you want to debate the word worship in greek, go to http://www.carm.org/jw/nwt_proskuneo.htm . It explains into pretty good detail about the word worship in greek if you use a NWT bible. g'day.
i have proof that jesus is not god , not in the sight of eyes but in words.
alright check this out!
im not gonna give out too many details only a few, some might agree & some might not agree,.
few things.
#1 - Jesus died for blasphemy of doing "godly works". The Jews said that only God could do things that Jesus was doing
#2- John 20:28 - Thomas said, "My Lord and My God". Jews couldn't swear or else they'd be killed.
#3- Jesus wasn't equal to god in rank, and he admits it. But he does admit that he is one with the father (John 10:30)
#4- Jesus did recieve worship in Hebrews 1:6 when god told all angels to worship him, and also in Matthew 14:33 where humans worshipped him (it says "do obediance" in the NWT because the WT has doctrine to support)
It doesn't say that Jesus is directly god in the bible, but it doesn't say he is michael the archangel either. So...
dusty
p.s. If you get a NWT bible thats pre-1971 hebrews 1:6 and Matthew 14:33 will actually say "worship" instead of "do obediance" because they were having huge arguments over it =)
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i know its been awhile...i dont have to much to say right now.im at a loss for words..im dissfellowshipped now..the announcement will be in 2 weeks.i just need some support..
heh, well my mom just found all my studies that shows the real truth about the troof. so i'm kinda in the same boat. i'm there w/ ya mayne. go team!
my husband and i are part owners of a company.
the company christmas party is this weekend.
we do not call it a christmas party, we call it the "holiday gathering".
i kinda suggest asking her why she doesn't want to come to the party. then if she brings up being a JW, ask her about it, how it is, whats goin on and try to learn more about her religion. make her a friend and welcome in the workplace and go from there.
what exactly is put into the file on those who are disfellowedshipped?is the information very detailed,so that others can read such details,or is it just that they have been disfellowedshipped.. for example:suppose someone have been df.for a sexual matter,brother or sister.are the details descriptive of what was committed or is just that they were df.i know that on the outside of the envelope the name is posted and that's it.but if someone were to open the folder and look inside can they get the detailed information on that person?.
when do the elders destroy such folders?can a person who no longer wishes to come back get their records and destroy them themselves?.
blueblades
i got tired of the elders wanting to know everything we did, so i told my g/f i don't give a rats ass what they wanna know. they ain't my pappy, all they want is some image to whack it to. next meeting that i have i'm goign to give them a porno video and tell them that we did something to that effect. have a wild imagination sir =)
