i just found out that the elders announced meia's and my disassociation at the service meeting this week.
they'd called me on monday and told me that they were going to; i fired off an appeal letter the next day, and hadn't heard anything, so i thought they might have postopned the announcement.
i just found out, however, that the meeting was held on monday this week because the other congregation had the co's visit.
BIG TEX: Explain about the baptisms before 1985, (that's me) I had never heard that before
I recently remarried a non-witness. My unscriptural divorce, initiated by my spouse, had been
over a few years, now nothing official has happened yet, but, I am afraid since I remarried and
a lot of JW relatives know it -- I may be getting a call. I have children I am especially worried about
losing to the 'shun'.
Lee
oh my giddy aunt.. i just saw this program on tv called texas teenage virgins.. as i understand it, president bush (cantankerous old sod), is now forthright encouraging people there and young folks to take a pledge of virginity until marriage, am i right, that it is even a by law?
by gum, those poor sods that don't want to go along with the policy, tell me, are they made to feel like outcasts and socially excluded if they do not conform?.
sex before marriage.
Howdy,
Yes, most Texans like Texas. Most of the visitors, too. It is such a varied landscape with so many different
ethnic groups. I would not live anywhere else, but, do like to visit. And even if some, like me, like Calf fries,
aka, Calf testicles, breaded and fried like chicken when I can find them! The funniest thing is how the
'typical' Texan lives and especially the horrible exagerated accent that TV shows want to give us.
We have our share of old racist farts, too. They are not as common as TV wants our culture to be
portrayed as being. (If we talk funny we must be racist)
We do tend to be different tho', after all NO other state was it's own country, with a president, an army &
navy. too
Come down and see us!
I would like to meet up with other Texans who used to be JW's, just to talk and see how they survived
and how they handled things.
Lee
i'm new too, i guess the saying, "misery loves company," is true in some ways.
in reading some
of the posts...i see a very sad and common theme of extreme depression and loneliness.
Thank you everyone...especially 'megadude', 'czar'. 'meg' and others about being willing to 'give me a hand'. I need this badly. Seeing people's concern for me, after going thru similar experiences...brought a few tears to my eyes, I'll admit.
My wife is hurt and mystified by all this...I'm trying to help her, too.
Hey, I'm not alone in this anymore -- not with people who've been there -- or just understand somehow!
Thank you all, Lee
i'm new too, i guess the saying, "misery loves company," is true in some ways.
in reading some
of the posts...i see a very sad and common theme of extreme depression and loneliness.
notperfectyet:
First off let me tell you that you are looking for acceptance in the wrong place. The fact you want to be haughty and say everyone here seems depressed is so wrong. The majority have found freedom in the religion that kept them in stupid rules that are un Biblical, and they are free and happy with it.
Hi everyone,
I think you misunderstood me badly. It was a simple observation from a new reader on this forum. I noticed that you have posted hundreds of times, perhaps you have been here long enough that you don't notice it as much. I only know what I've read since the first of the year -- on the subjects I was interested in. At first, I thought YOU got it wrong, then I noticed others thought the same. I re-read my post and IT DID sorta sound that way to me, too. So, sorry. I meant to get across the point -- that the 'LEAVING' process was so depressing to most people -- because of what and who they lose in their lives. The many people who said they thought of suicide, not being able to talk to their children, parents, brothers and sisters, friends...is this NOT depression?? Well, since I have experienced MOST of these things already, including a suicide attempt, I think I qualify as a person who recognizes depression when I see it. Having said that, I don't feel so alone anymore, because I do see this 'common theme' it helps me to know that so many people seem to have gone thru that phase and DID end up feeling happy and free! I needed to see a psycologist for a year to get thru this, it helped. Despite all the discouragement from Witnesses who told me what I REALLY needed to do to be happy -- get back to meetings so I, as an Elder said,"wouldn't LOOK so guilty"(can you believe that?) My X was 'pure as the driven snow' of course -- as far as they knew!Cause SHE was still going to meetings and out in service!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- notperfectyet only,
Now--as far as you deciding that I am 'haughty', you don't know me well enough for that label, do ya'?
I hope I HAVE found the right place for acceptance. I certainly don't have it at the local Kingdom Hall, my relatives or my family, do I?
Please don't judge me and slap me down...?
I did not say that you were depressed. Were you ever when you left...?
I do agree with your other statements and observations.
I'm still on this journey...give me a hand?
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This is one of the hardest things I've done in my life...I want to:
Try to preserve my family and relative ties, so I don't think it's a good idea to
throw this in their faces and challenge the Elders to take action.
I would like to talk to someone who's gone thru this, maybe they have found some ways to 'stay under the JW radar'.
I am very happy with my new wife and my life. However, my children are very important to me, too. They are very much influenced and controled by their mother and her family. I'm sure they are concerned about 'going against the truth' and losing their Mom, friends and relatives, too! It's a SAD 'Merry-go-round' Makes me wonder how many people are truly at the KH ONLY because they don't want to lose the people they love...?
Sincerely, Lee
i'm new too, i guess the saying, "misery loves company," is true in some ways.
in reading some
of the posts...i see a very sad and common theme of extreme depression and loneliness.
Hey,
I'm new too, I guess the saying, "misery loves company," is true in some ways. In reading some of the posts...I see a very sad and common theme of extreme depression and loneliness. I am very much among that group, too. I fail to understand how throwing away friends and relatives is very Christian, just because some one falls or walks away from a religion. After 7 years of separation, then divorce, I remarried a wonderful woman, they all liked her. Then, just before the wedding I'm informed that no one is coming or will have anything to do with the wedding. It's been 3 months with no contact from about JW 25 relatives. You see, she wasn't a witness!
My X was told she had NO grounds for divorce, she did it anyway. Since the divorce was not 'scriptual', my marrying could get me DF. In any case I'm definitely 'marked' and stopped going a few years ago. No action (official) has been taken, but, my family says I should have remained celibate OR and get this: "only marry in the Lord." Guess how many dates I could have gotten with JW women? Right...! So-o...'Catch-22,' huh?
I am being pretty much treated like DF.
Does anyone have any experience with stuff like this? What is likely happening right now? What is likely to happen? One of my relatives...trying her best to explain their actions to a non-witness, said they will continue to talk to me at regular family gatherings, then more ominously, "unless something changes..."
So, though I am not glad to see others misery, at least don't feel like 'I'm the only one.'
Sincerely, Lee PS: I just read 'Dave's' repost of: My Two week consulting trip to Bethel. It was very good and reminds me of things that have happened and IS happening in my life right now. I do not agree with all his conclusions and personal judgments about the Witnesses, but, THAT is the beauty of True Free Will, isn't it? I highly recommend reading it...
since half of them ended up at my house on friday and saturday nights i was given a very shining report card.
he then told me that he would knock on my door bright and early in the morning to take me to breakfast with him and his wife.
a couple of them told they enjoy the articles i write in the art magazines and they were really happy to meet me.
Dave, Like everyone else -- that was long,but, I don't think you could have told your story as well and accurately without all the details.I am in the middle of that 'No Man's land.'My X left and we had an 'unscriptural Divorce.' I lasted 7 years before I remarried a wonderful woman...who's only fault (according to my family and relative that are JW's) is that she's a 'Worldly woman.' We married a few months ago and although their has been no 'Official Reaction' my family has never contacted me and SEEM to be shunning me. So, I'm ready for the other 'shoe-to-drop' now as I've seen happen with other posters. I've been 'inactive' for the last 3-4 years. Does anybody out there have some more experiences like this about 'unscriptural Divorce.' and what I can expect to happen in the future? Do the congregation Elders have to judge me on this first -- before family and friends can shun me?
i'm new too, i guess the saying, "misery loves company," is true in some ways.
in reading some
of the posts...i see a very sad and common theme of extreme depression and loneliness.
My Dad's side is not JW, they are mystified why this is happening. My new wife
is one of those people everyone feels comfortable with, (I haven't met one person
who did not like her right away) even my X!
i'm new too, i guess the saying, "misery loves company," is true in some ways.
in reading some
of the posts...i see a very sad and common theme of extreme depression and loneliness.
Hey,
I'm new too, I guess the saying, "misery loves company," is true in some ways. In reading some of the posts...I see a very sad and common theme of extreme depression and loneliness. I am very much among that group, too. I fail to understand how throwing away friends and relatives is very Christian, just because some one falls or walks away from a religion. After 7 years of separation, then divorce, I remarried a wonderful woman, they all liked her. Then, just before the wedding I'm informed that no one is coming or will have anything to do with the wedding. It's been 3 months with no contact from about JW 25 relatives. You see, she wasn't a witness!
My X was told she had NO grounds for divorce, she did it anyway. Since the divorce was not 'scriptual', my marrying could get me DF. In any case I'm definitely 'marked' and stopped going a few years ago. No action (official) has been taken, but, my family says I should have remained celibate OR and get this: "only marry in the Lord." Guess how many dates I could have gotten with JW women? Right...! So-o...'Catch-22,' huh?
I am being pretty much treated like DF.
Does anyone have any experience with stuff like this? What is likely happening right now? What is likely to happen? One of my relatives...trying her best to explain their actions to a non-witness, said they will continue to talk to me at regular family gatherings, then more ominously, "unless something changes..."
So, though I am not glad to see others misery, at least don't feel like 'I'm the only one.'
Lee
i am a new member here and wanted to say hello to all.
i am not bitter or angry, just kinda very lost in the shuffle and hope to meet some new people.
i am starting my life over and hope to hear from some of you as to what worked for you.
Thank you very much for the congratulations!
I will post it the way you said, this is new, so thanks for the advice!
i am a new member here and wanted to say hello to all.
i am not bitter or angry, just kinda very lost in the shuffle and hope to meet some new people.
i am starting my life over and hope to hear from some of you as to what worked for you.
Hey,
I'm new too, I guess the saying, "misery loves company," is true in some ways. In reading some of the
posts...I see a very sad and common theme of extreme depression and loneliness. I am very much among
that group, too. I fail to understand how throwing away friends and relatives is very Christian, just because
some one falls or walks away from a religion. After 7 years of separation, then divorce, I remarried a wonderful
woman, they all liked her. Then, just before the wedding I'm informed that no one is coming or will have anything
to do with the wedding. It's been 3 months with no contact from about JW 25 relatives. You see, she wasn't a witness!
My X was told she had NO grounds for divorce, she did it anyway. Since the divorce was not 'scriptual', my marrying
could get me DF. In any case I'm definitely 'marked' and stopped going a few years ago. No action (official) has been
taken, but, my family says I should have remained celibate OR and get this: "only marry in the Lord." Guess how
many dates I could have gotten with JW women? Right...! So-o...'Catch-22,' huh?
I am being pretty much treated like DF.
Does anyone have any experience with stuff like this? What is likely happening right now? What is likely to happen?
One of my relatives...trying her best to explain their actions to a non-witness, said they will continue to talk to me at
regular family gatherings, then more ominously, "unless something changes..."
So, though I am not glad to see others misery, at least don't feel like 'I'm the only one.'
Lee
