Posts by Rabbit

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WITNESSES REACTION TO FACING DEATH......

by Mary in

jw
friends

i went to see someone in my old hall last night, who's recently been diagnosed with cancer.

she's only in her late 40s, healthy, so this was a shock when i found out about it the other night.

apparently it's gone in to her liver and her doctor has not given her any hope of surviving it, although they're going for a second opinion, as the doctors in our area are notoriously incompetent.. even though i stopped going to the meeting 2 years ago, i thought going to see her was the human thing to do, since she studied with me when i was 15 years old and i thought it would maybe be comforting for her to talk to someone else who had had cancer.

Rabbit

My Mom had cancer, but, died directly from Watchtower poisoning. [no blood] Her eyes were fearful and sad like all the non-dubs...the JW's were sad and not fearful, but, buoyed by the thought "...she'll wake up in the Pair-of-dice...it'll seem like a blink of her eyes..and if we remain faithful...we'll meet her there!"

Everybody say...Awwwwwwwwwwww...

Every time a JW has tried to convince me to 'come back into the fold' they've used that same blackmail enticement: "You don't want to HURT your mother when she wakes up and says, "Where's 'Rabbit'," DO YOU ?"

If we 'remain faithful' by dying, shunning, not helping 'worldly' people and other stupid cult stuff...we get a 'hope'. Forget it. The cost is way too high. I would rather not have a 'back up plan', I think that will help make me be the best person I can be now...and NOT for the motivation of that juicy carrot on the end of that stick.

I cannot imagine why there would even be a "life" and then a separate "after-life". What's the point? We absolutely know what physical life is...we have it! Why would we want an unknown, unproven 'spirit' "life"? It's "pie in the sky."

If there is a god/goddess/creator type, who even remembers or cares about us and wants to give us some special 'after-life'...then, 'it' will do whatever-the-hell 'it' wants to do with my dead body and volatile memories. If, so, that's where I'll be. If not...I'll be fine fertilizer, because I am surely very full of sh*t.

Yep, maybe you can tell...I think dub minds and funerals suck.

rabbit

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2006 THANKSGIVING MENU AT BETHEL

by Scorpion in

2006 thanksgiving menu at bethel .

new world diner .

welcome to new world food and "spirits".

Rabbit

BEVERAGES

1925 Shun Shine Punch
1914 Watchtower Rose'
New Light Beer Life's Water Free

New !

This was great ...thanks for the smile !

30

GAY SHEEP -- Scientists look for "cure."

by Rabbit in

http://stopanimaltests.com/f-navratilova.asp.

openly gay tennis legend martina navratilova slams gay sheep experiments at oregon state university.

openly gay tennis icon martina navratilova is expressing outrage that oregon state university (osu) and oregon health & science university (ohsu) are spending millions of public tax dollars on unethical hormone-altering experiments on gay sheep that seek to manipulate sheeps sexual preferences and make them heterosexual.. ohsu experimenter charles roselli drugs fetal sheep in order to alter sex hormones in their brains, and he cuts open the brains of rams he calls male-oriented (homosexual) in an attempt to find the hormonal mechanisms behind homosexual tendencies so that they can subsequently be changed.

Rabbit

The Toe

I don't see the difficulty in this study being conducted.

Of course not...you're not a !

If it proves that there are genetic or chemical reasons for homosexuality it doesn't alter the individuals' sexual preferences.

As long as the sheep are humanely dispatched and eaten by me or my pets... I have no real moral objection to the experiments. I think the 'big question' might just be answered finally by research like this, regardless of what may be bad motives by some. If it is, "genetic or chemical reasons," it can and should be thrown into the faces of the fundies.

Down the road however, if they ever do find a way to "cure" it -- what will the fundies do then ? Demand inoculations? Genetic rehab treatment? Social pressure? Hate will find a way, I'm afraid.

I find it easier to just accept that people are different and won't judge them about something so personal.

Isn't it amazing the basic things you learn...when you exit a cult ?

Rabbit

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GAY SHEEP -- Scientists look for "cure."

by Rabbit in

http://stopanimaltests.com/f-navratilova.asp.

openly gay tennis legend martina navratilova slams gay sheep experiments at oregon state university.

openly gay tennis icon martina navratilova is expressing outrage that oregon state university (osu) and oregon health & science university (ohsu) are spending millions of public tax dollars on unethical hormone-altering experiments on gay sheep that seek to manipulate sheeps sexual preferences and make them heterosexual.. ohsu experimenter charles roselli drugs fetal sheep in order to alter sex hormones in their brains, and he cuts open the brains of rams he calls male-oriented (homosexual) in an attempt to find the hormonal mechanisms behind homosexual tendencies so that they can subsequently be changed.

Rabbit

I thought God killed all the gay sheep at the city of Sodom. I don't recall Lot taking his sheep with him and his daughters.

I'm guessing Lot did not have his sheep with him. But, he did have sex with his 2 daughters and he got away with it. Apparently, Lot behavior 'foreshadowed' the WT's future doctrine of not protecting children. (2 witness rule & all) And still... Lot remains one of the most beloved, heroic examples of what Gods' faithful followers should strive to be. Rabbit

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As an Elder I believe JW's have the Truth

by JWFreak in

jw
friends

i also believe in santa clause and that david beckham has a phd.

seriously though, i have only been here a short while but it has been more than enough to convince me to hand in my resignation.

i have telephoned our sec, and told him that i am stepping down.

Rabbit

Good for you !

Rabbit

28

The Governing Body said it ... are you ready !!!!!!!!!!!!

by run dont walk in

i was at a funeral this weekend, the first time i'd been in a kingdom hall in 13 years, the talk was short about a half hour, and all jw stuff as expected, but the one part of the talk made me laugh, the speaker said :.

"we (a group of elders), had the oppourtunity to speak with a member of the governing body at the assembly, and he said : "we the governing body are confident that armageddon is close, and are ready for jehovah's day, are you ready ???"".

i couldn't believe my ears, they will never learn.

Rabbit

Now I know why something always seemed so wrong---the package was too perfectly wrapped, the deal was far too slick. Long gone are heartfelt spontaneity, the simplicity of the real Good News. Like so many here, I can never go back. There is no comfort coming from the platform, especially at memorial services. Again, condolences and sympathy.
Yours truly,
CoCo

Thank you.

It is a slick deal. The sad part is...1/2 of my family are dubs and apparently I was the only there (besides the non-dubs) who saw that it was just an ad. My Mom got a little honorary mention, "She died faithful." THAT was the most important thing about her. She was a mere prop, an opportunity. She was the fine print on the bottom of a TV car commercial.

The rest of the ad was, "Come be like us ! Happiest people on earth now, live forever, blah-blah, etc."

I've been told by non-dub relatives since then, "We were furious and disgusted at the whole funeral, they said almost nothing about your sweet Mom, it was all about that religion!"

So much for, "...giving a good witness," huh ?

Rabbit

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OJ SIMPSON sez: "IF I did it...Here's how I would have done it..."

by Rabbit in

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061115/ap_on_en_tv/simpson_interview.

simpson to discuss killings 2 hours, 54 minutes ago.

fox plans to broadcast an interview with o.j.

Rabbit

This is cold-blooded. Can you imagine what's going on in the minds of Nicole & OJ's kids ?

'Here's how I would have killed your Mom...IF I did it ?'

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The Governing Body said it ... are you ready !!!!!!!!!!!!

by run dont walk in

i was at a funeral this weekend, the first time i'd been in a kingdom hall in 13 years, the talk was short about a half hour, and all jw stuff as expected, but the one part of the talk made me laugh, the speaker said :.

"we (a group of elders), had the oppourtunity to speak with a member of the governing body at the assembly, and he said : "we the governing body are confident that armageddon is close, and are ready for jehovah's day, are you ready ???"".

i couldn't believe my ears, they will never learn.

Rabbit

At my Mom's funeral, just a few days after the Watchtower's Governing Body killed her with their "God told us He'd be much happier if you died rather than get a blood transfusion," the local elders used my Mom one more time -- for advertising purposes.

Advertise,

Advertise, the Good news of God's Kingdom !

Please...feel frre to contact any of Jehovah's Witnesses to arrange a *Free Home Bible Study and learn more about God's coming Paradise.

* DISCLAIMER: "Free" means no direct money cost. Although, what you learn may kill you (see above) and cause a life-long pain due to shunning, etc.

I guess I was thick-headed. For me...that was the 'straw that broke the camel's back."

Rabbit

btw, despite such fine attractive seeds the elders tried to plant that day...no 'new' JW's were made.

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Wife swapping in the congregation, ever experience it?

by free2beme in

jw
friends

wife swapping by definition was something that came from the care free sex days of the 1970's.

you know, before a thing called aids became something we worried about.

basically, it was a sex game of taking another person's wife home for sex, and you let them take your wife home.

Rabbit

It took a few years of separation, then a divorce and I swapped my uber jw wife for a never-been-a-dub one. And this one is a much better model, too.

She's not judgmental, close-minded, sexually repressed, in fact she is the opposite. She's loving, open-minded and worldly...and she actually thinks for herself !

Good swap !

Rabbit

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GAY SHEEP -- Scientists look for "cure."

by Rabbit in

http://stopanimaltests.com/f-navratilova.asp.

openly gay tennis legend martina navratilova slams gay sheep experiments at oregon state university.

openly gay tennis icon martina navratilova is expressing outrage that oregon state university (osu) and oregon health & science university (ohsu) are spending millions of public tax dollars on unethical hormone-altering experiments on gay sheep that seek to manipulate sheeps sexual preferences and make them heterosexual.. ohsu experimenter charles roselli drugs fetal sheep in order to alter sex hormones in their brains, and he cuts open the brains of rams he calls male-oriented (homosexual) in an attempt to find the hormonal mechanisms behind homosexual tendencies so that they can subsequently be changed.

Rabbit

http://stopanimaltests.com/f-navratilova.asp

Openly Gay Tennis Legend Martina Navratilova Slams ‘Gay Sheep’ Experiments at Oregon State University

Openly gay tennis icon Martina Navratilova is expressing outrage that Oregon State University (OSU) and Oregon Health & Science University (OHSU) are spending millions of public tax dollars on unethical hormone-altering experiments on “gay sheep” that seek to manipulate sheep’s sexual preferences and make them heterosexual.

OHSU experimenter Charles Roselli drugs fetal sheep in order to alter sex hormones in their brains, and he cuts open the brains of rams he calls “male-oriented” (homosexual) in an attempt to find the hormonal mechanisms behind homosexual tendencies so that they can subsequently be changed. Roselli’s cohort, OSU’s Frederick Stormshak, has surgically installed an estrogen device in the bodies of “gay sheep” in an effort to make their sexual preferences heterosexual. The test results carry the insidious implication that homosexuality in humans can be “cured”; the experimenters have stated that they plan to extrapolate the test results to humans.

In letters faxed to the presidents of both universities, Navratilova—who has won nine Wimbledon Women’s Singles championships and holds more overall tennis titles than any other player in history—writes, “How can it be that, in the year 2006, a major university would host such homophobic and cruel experiments? ... For the sake of the animals who will die unnecessarily in these experiments and for the many gays and lesbians who stand to be deeply offended by the social implications of these tests, I ask that you please end these studies at once.”

Read Navratilova’s letters to OSU and OHSU in their entirety and learn more about these needless and unethical experiments.

* Sigh *

So-o...according to the fundamental Bible & Koran thumpin' types...after the 'gay' sheep are hormonally & genetically changed, if ever, will they be finally be "natural" or were they "natural" to begin with ?

And ...what about people ?