we all know the shit is going to hit the fan,with the release of barbera anderson`s new cd:"secrets of pedophilia in an american religion:jehovah`s witness`s in crisis".....the wbt$ is going to take a beating,so are the jehovah`s witness`s.....there are two reactions to consider..and..they are the subject of this thread................what will be the reaction of the wbt$?..and..what will be the reaction of jehovah`s witness`s?...outlaw
I warn the Governing Body at Bethel that your abuse of power is going to be exposed. You hid behind your twisted interpretation of a scripture, while thousands upon thousands of children were raped. You later declared other religions with the same problems to be "False Religion", all the while your own trial was going on. Perhaps God is stripping you of your power?
Skeeter
Bite 'em hard Skeeter !
That was very well written. I'll 2nd that warning.
Rabbit
on my recent "college courses" thread, i got this contribution from veradico and thought it deserved it's own thread.
it was news to me.
this is a partial quote:.
Bad leeches ! Bad leeches ! You'll never be in Paradise unless you repent from your evil blood-sucking ways !
However, though leeches parasitically feed on blood in their natural state at present, it would not be proper for a Christian to permit leeches to draw his blood. (Proverbs 30:15) Even where this was urged for medical reasons and the leeches would later be disposed of, the use of leeches would involve deliberately feeding blood to these creatures. That would conflict with the Bible’s indication that blood, being sacred and representing life, should be disposed of if it is removed from a body.
*sigh*
Btw, there was a QFR that addressed what kind of food True Christians pets can eat. *sigh* Yes...you guessed it ! The WTS says JW pets cannot eat pet food with 'blood meal' or animals not properly bled. I'm sure someone can post a scan that spectacular stupidity here for us all to gawk at.
Remember...if you have a pet (Christian) snake...you'll have to start killing those mice yourself, cutting their throats and properly bleeding them by hanging them from their tails; before feeding your pet.
Rabbit (of the totally embarrassed I used to believe this crap, class)
At first...I was thinking, "OK, there's no reason for this...not funny."
Then, as I continued reading, "the rest of the story," I understood you were describing The Truth ™ , radical Islam and other fundamentalist misogynistic religions. The 'problem' is/was the audience was expecting "funny", instead it reminded me of the hilarious TV show, "MASH". Remember...the shocking, serious, tear making episodes ? I remember them more than the funny ones. They were a complete departure from the normal, but, isn't that how true life is ?
Keep 'em coming.
Rabbit
another watchtower hospital liaison committee comes through and "protects" one of their members from possibly/probably extending their life via a blood transfusion.. click here to read the original story online.. .
jehovahs accused over gran's death.
jul 20 2007. .
"Suzanne...the plans they made put an end to her," as the James Taylor song goes.
Bobbi
Did any one ask if the doctors tried to find an alternative treatment for her? Were there any other options or are we all just focused on the sensationalism of yet another "Blood" case hitting the news.?
There was a alternative treatment available when my my died needing blood. Hemoglobin may have saved her, but after the HLC elders and my uber-Dub siblings lied to my non-dub dad (who was trying to respect her beliefs) by telling him JW's could not take any blood products. (Hemoglobin wasn't allowed until a few years ago, til that change, ya' just had to die. Watchtower said so.)
Why lie ? 'Cause..."they were afraid he might not understand how one JW could accept something, that another's 'bible trained conscience' might not allow..." My mom died, so the wonderful "Unity" fallacy of all witnesses believing the same thing -- could be preserved.
My mom was murdered.
I hope I did not 'focus too much sensationalism' on my mom's death to suit you.
Rabbit
The "no ma'am we'll take a booth truth" did it for me.
Thank you!!
Watson
And..."the-truth-that-goes-poof" made me and my never-been-a-dub wife laugh our furry butts off. Although...she thought i said, "the-truth-that-goes...poot "
Ya' know...if these could be made up in a PDF format...they might just fit easily into all those Watchtowers & Awakes we see in doctors offices and other public places...what do y'all think ? Get a JW to laugh at themselves might be a better way to see the Troof.
boise - fire crews are investigating an arson fire that destroyed a boise church overnight.
that fire happened at the jehovahs witness church just off of roosevelt and st. andrews just after 2 a.m. .
when crews arrived on scene, they found the building engulfed in flames, and say someone set the fire intentionally.
“It's not something we take lightly, we are going to be investigating it here over the next several days andlooking at possible witnesses,” Buzzini said.
Yep. I'd look carefully at possible Witnesses, too.
this thread was inspired by another thread about "two classes of the annointed".
1 page 805. as we all know when the term faithful and discreet slave is used by the witnesses it is usually always about the governing body.
in most prayers we hear at the meeting we hear the brother asking jehovah to direct the fds.. notice who the insight book says the faithful and discreet slave is,.
So, it begs the question, if the entire body of annointed christians make up the Slave Class, then WHY do only 12 or so men of this class do so?
Gumby
Cause they said so...?
They have to get a 2/3 majority to decide any issue anyway, imagine the teleconference bills from all 8,000 'anointed ones' ?!
There was an "anointed" sister in my hall, back when I was pioneering, Pre-Armageddon. We were "...not supposed to ask", but, I did... "So...do you get letters, phone calls n' stuff from the GB ? Asking your thoughts ? Do you submit articles ?
She looked kind of hurt and said, "No. In all these years...I've never even gotten a letter from the Society. The Elders don't let me attend any of their meetings. But, we have to 'wait on Jehovah', ya' know. ?" I don't know what she was thinking...she was just a mere woman.
And ...this anointed future "ruler over the earth" had to use a head-covering in front of ME... an un-baptised publisher, putting in pioneer hours. I could not say the prayer before Field Service one Saturday, cause there were no official brothers there. So, to say a prayer, she found a Kleenex and covered her head...I was just a mere man and I out-ranked her.
Btw...if all of the GB are listening in, on the other end of that "conduit" from God...why don't they all end up with the same shit in their ears ?
"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men."
~ Lord Acton in a letter to Bishop Mandell Creighton in 1887:
Rabbit's droppings .. . . .. . . ..
showing 120 of about 127,000 see all videosjames randi exposes uri geller and peter popoff.
13:50from:rationalresponse.
views: 447933 peter popoff vs james randi 2007.
I love being entertained by 'magic', it's good clean fun, as long as you don't take it seriously...and lose an eye !
I also don't see why Randi's attitude should be in the equation at all. I'm sure he does make some people furious with him, he's probably one of those who 'rub people the wrong way', when he proves them wrong.
I'm no scientist, but, if I figure out how someone is being fooled...and can prove it -- it's valid.
Like Terry said, "A test is a test is a test."
i believe that in the past i've started threads about ghosts and such but i haven't started one about me asking others if they have had a personal experience with a demon.. a couple of days ago i was talking to my dub son-in-law about how i wish i could believe in the unseen....such as ghosts, the paranormal, or anything out of the ordinary.. he said to me......"well what about demon stories"?
he related some stories that were given at an assembly from some who were greatly bothered by demons, mostly from africa.. so, what are we to make of those with such stories?
are they lying?
Well...Gumby, my uber dub x-wife has had experiences with demons. Apparently, the demon(s?) made her dub husband (that would be me) "read" a Playboy magazine and then, well...made my hand move in a peculiar fashion like on a Ouija Board...OK-OK...I got caught 'spanking the monkey', aw-right ??
Anyway, according to the ex, "...it must be demon(s), what other reason would make you do that ?" "Uh...I dunno, dear...must be demons." Wrong answer. When I got home the next day...the wifey had searched, gathered & burned a good size pile of some good stuff I used to own. Because, those things 'might' have been used or bought at garage sales, she suspected "evil slaves, apostates and of course...demon(z)".
I must say, tho'...all those demons were sure enough purdy. They were not "troublesome" to me at all and I felt the overall experience was stimulating.
Rabbit (I see purdy demonz)
i need some support, some suggestions, and perhaps a gut-check.
my husband was baptized in march.
he was raised from the time he was about 7 until his mom kicked him out at 15 (wasn't she loving?
You've certainly had your hands full. My mother was raised a Witness, too, then ...after getting married to my Dad, a non-jw, she slowly faded away. As kids, we celebrated all the holidays, even tho' my father was not religious.
My mother was "guilt-ed" back into The Truth ™ by her relatives...this may be happening in your husbands case, too. See...the 'End of the World' was "right around the corner" in 1969, when she started going back to meetings. 1975 was when Armageddon was scheduled. The "guilt" the WTS used was 'Jehovah will spare your kids from being slaughtered, IF, at least one parent stays faithful'. My mom took the bait.
Your husband may be going thru the same thing...now that the WTS has rescheduled Armageddon...it's, "right around the corner" again...he doesn't want to be the 'cause' of his baby's death at the hand of his Almighty Loving Jehovah God.
BTW, going back to the Witnesses is dangerous...my mom died a few years ago, while following the WT Corporate rules, by refusing a blood transfusion. Serious stuff, this cult is...
Rabbit
