"tribe on papua new guinea meets white man for the first time.
filmed in 1976.".
note: this footage contains the kind of nudity that you would see in national geographic magazine.
Wow. Thank you. Those people were so curious and after the elders checked things out...the beautiful smiles on the children faces told a great story.
That was heart-warming. I'll sleep well.
Tomorrow I'll think about their future. Today -- another unknown tribe in the Amazon Basin was discovered. It's on the news.
i am now sitting at home.
my wife left with my little child.
my fault (i dislike the word "fault", but don't have a better one right now).. it feels strange, relieved and free, at the same time it was all very strange.
"The therapy that my relative received also helped me to undo that cult's brainwashing on me. "
Which cult...?
Sorry...it's just that we were all weak once. We had that propensity to believe the absurd. Please be careful.
Rabbit
this was inspired by that thread marvin did on the "ectoplasm".. in something of a confession - i actually gave that hour public talk on this subject.
and it was very popular with the jws.. i did not believe a word of it - even at the time.
did not believe in the "demons" either - with or without the slime.. it got me to thinking - how much of this did a small back room of your mind reject?
At first in my hooked idealist mind I accepted pretty much every thing, because for the first time *I* was important, as a mere cog. I knew my place. Started pioneering right after H.S. in 1972 pre-Armageddon.
The one needling doubt for me was always...how the HELL could I believe the story of Noah's Ark?
You see, I was and am a bug, spider, insect, etc. lover. I loved close-up photography of these critters. I knew that there were hundreds of thousands of beetles -- just beetles! How the HELL could Noah find, ID, collect, feed...? Then, a quick look shows over 800,000 different species of insects, 250,000 are beetles with around 30,000 in N. America alone. People spend their entire lives studying living things today -- with a lot of high tech help.
That was my first real big chink...
Good thread !
i am now sitting at home.
my wife left with my little child.
my fault (i dislike the word "fault", but don't have a better one right now).. it feels strange, relieved and free, at the same time it was all very strange.
Intel,
I started missing meetings & questioning the brothers, The Truth's changing doctrines, while I was married to my JW, she cleverly (I think she had help) figured out my problem...I had to have a demon. It must have just been obvious, ya' know?
Well, fast forward a few years, we were divorced. Kids minds were poisoned and that hasn't recovered yet. Please...be very, very careful...absolutely demand your rights! You've done what you felt was the best, the best way for your situation. Moshe is still spouting his same old tired "doormat" doctrine...not even apparently aware that people come in all shapes and sizes. One size does not fit all.
I am a proud fader. My decision has enabled me to have some contact with one daughter, sisters, cousins, aunts & uncles... I don't know if I'll ever cause them to doubt what they've been taught -- and get out themselves, but, I have had some access. I've also had painful shunning. And, I have never had the inevitable "showdown" with the elders.
Good Luck
september 15th, 2011 watchtower, page 28, paragraph 13:.
"if a human overseer in god's organization provides you with instructions that seem extremely detailed, you might at times feel frustrated.
jehovah, however, is a perfect overseer who delegates generously and trusts his servants.
New Chapter...ya' had to be there for that to be funny.
Most of us prolly were...I got a rather severe 'discussion' (I didn't say anything...just looked at my feet) before my JW weddin' day. It went a lot like above, but, MUCH worse.
you also must be ready, because the son of man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.
( luke 12:40. new international version).
so logically, if jws expect him soooooon, thats proof that he's not coming soon..
I'm just about ready.
Wait...
...hold on...
...ok, tell Him to wait. I gotta go pee.
Don't do it without me...!
to me...the following story exemplifies why freedom of speech is so important.
people should be exposed to differing ideas & beliefs for their own good.. my comment is highlighted below, it's funny, sad & i realize...not representative of most christians.
(most, i believe will think about it, but, not act on it) .
dgp
my friend called round before and has just left.
he told me that he was worried about me and that he wanted to speak to me as to why i havnt been going to the meetings or on the field service.
i told him that im just not discussing the reasons at all.
Good for you! Stick to your principles.
Great quote below...and applicable to ANY sexual orientation...!
If anyone understands my predicament, its like telling a human that he cant have air.
If...if the elders get truly interested...they can demand answers. If you refuse them, yep, you could be history as a JW (a good thing), hopefully your family is loving. But, if you haven't been there in a long while...Sir82 gives some good fading advice.
to me...the following story exemplifies why freedom of speech is so important.
people should be exposed to differing ideas & beliefs for their own good.. my comment is highlighted below, it's funny, sad & i realize...not representative of most christians.
(most, i believe will think about it, but, not act on it) .
dgp, it is odd...isn't it ? Belief in someone called "God of Love" and "Prince of Peace" have caused so much war, heartbreak & grief.
Atheists and agnostics...? meh...?
satinka, thanks for pasting that...I don't know what I was doing wrong.
to me...the following story exemplifies why freedom of speech is so important.
people should be exposed to differing ideas & beliefs for their own good.. my comment is highlighted below, it's funny, sad & i realize...not representative of most christians.
(most, i believe will think about it, but, not act on it) .
Those gosh-darn atheists are at it again:
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2011/05/atheists-planning-rapture-party-may-21st/37890/
