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  The real you. . .

  by John Doe in

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  tell us more.

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  Rene Descartes--"cogito ergo sum."

  Pfft, Descartes was an elitist. A rebel elitist, but an elitist just the same. The catchier phrases are Latin phrases and he knew it. The Irish were probably laughing thier asses off at his misuse of Latin.
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  Do not go gentle into that good night

  by Hortensia in

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  i looked this up because i was remembering it wrong.

  i thought it was "do not go gentle into that dark night" and "rage against the dying of the moon" for some reason.

  that was a little confusing because the moon has a rebirth and i was wondering what the author's point was.

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  when read by a skilled reader

  Me, me can I read?

  Actually, that was the one, perhaps the only thing I loved about my witness days. I like to read out loud, and I very often was the "designated" reader. Far more fun than sitting there pretending to be interested while bored to tears.
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  Do not go gentle into that good night

  by Hortensia in

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  i looked this up because i was remembering it wrong.

  i thought it was "do not go gentle into that dark night" and "rage against the dying of the moon" for some reason.

  that was a little confusing because the moon has a rebirth and i was wondering what the author's point was.

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  I think a tribal life, very intimate connection with and dependence upon everyone else in the tribe, might be very comforting. However, when you are used to self-determination I don't think you can go back. It's isolated but compelling.

  I think the two are compatible, in fact compulsory in a well ordered society. Today we deal with extremes that benefit a few. We have difficulty envisioning something functional.
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  The real me

  by Junction-Guy in

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  for those of you that don't know me in person and think im a hateful grump, well that is not the real me.. .

  the real me is a friendly,sociable person.

  the real me likes to talk with people and laugh.. .

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  Overall this is a very tame bunch.

  Well, we are a bunch of ex-JW's after all! How wild are we gonna get? About the worst insult on this board is to tell someone they are still thinking like a JW.

  Baby, you have no idea! The wildest are often those who have recently gained freedom. We do have our bouncers here, so your point is valid. Distract those bouncers though for a time...and we would see some interesting extremes.
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  What should upset you the most about high gas prices

  by free2beme in

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  your paying so much in gas right now that it has brought out national economy to its knees, and yet the thing that should upset you this most is this .... the goverment is doing "nothing!".

  not one bill has been passed, plan implemented or action taken.

  all talk and no action, which is why our government needs to be fired and replaced or this country is done.. .

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  This has been a well known issue for 30 years

  It's been sold to us for roughly 100 years.

  Read about rapid transit (cable cars) that existed in the West Coast cities in the early 1900's and why it suddenly ended. Here in Sacramento it was cheap, effective and clean (hydroelectric). The disadvantage was that it didn't sell cars, tires, fuel...etc. and most importantly didn't funnel money into the pockets of the companys that could buy Ca's politicians. It's interesting to ferret out who bought and then closed down the west coast cable cars.

  San Fran still operates a few of these visionary Cable Cars. Sadly, capatilism dictated that profit demanded an end to cheap public transit.
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  You will never overcome your Witness past...

  by JimmyPage in

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  ... unless you read apostate views.. you may become inactive, like i did, and find a way to assimilate yourself into the normal world.. but you will always have at your core a view of the world that the witnesses gave you.

  their basic teachings will still be your world view.. you will never realize you were indoctrinated by a cult.. for those poisoned by jehovah's witnesses there is only one antidote.. there is only one way to understand your life and progress from there.. the only true cure for jehovah's witnesses is apostasy..

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  I enjoyed the cracked pot story, but this was succinct.

  When at my lowest point, I told a friend that I felt like a gnarled misshapen tree in a forest of tall straight ones. She said those are the ones that are the most interesting
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  Do not go gentle into that good night

  by Hortensia in

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  i looked this up because i was remembering it wrong.

  i thought it was "do not go gentle into that dark night" and "rage against the dying of the moon" for some reason.

  that was a little confusing because the moon has a rebirth and i was wondering what the author's point was.

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  Tribalism, to me, implies a way of life most of us here have abandoned. Self determination is the antithesis.
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  Do not go gentle into that good night

  by Hortensia in

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  i looked this up because i was remembering it wrong.

  i thought it was "do not go gentle into that dark night" and "rage against the dying of the moon" for some reason.

  that was a little confusing because the moon has a rebirth and i was wondering what the author's point was.

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  And I like the goal of being satisfied with life and therefore willing to give it up.

  Yeah, or dying for a good cause...almost the same. We never really want to see the end. Sometimes we can look back though and say, "I'm ok with this, things turned out pretty well."

  The difference between the two would be "tribalism" vs. "self-determination"?
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  Do not go gentle into that good night

  by Hortensia in

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  i looked this up because i was remembering it wrong.

  i thought it was "do not go gentle into that dark night" and "rage against the dying of the moon" for some reason.

  that was a little confusing because the moon has a rebirth and i was wondering what the author's point was.

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  UNDER the wide and starry sky
  Dig the grave and let me lie:
  Glad did I live and gladly die,
  And I laid me down with a will.
  
  This be the verse you 'grave for me:
  5 Here he lies where he long'd to be;
  Home is the sailor, home from the sea,
  And the hunter home from the hill.

  That's beautiful. I've always believed that life should overrule any fear of death (even in my pre jw days). This makes me wonder though.

  There's focus in that poem.

  Could I say the same?
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  Do not go gentle into that good night

  by Hortensia in

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  i looked this up because i was remembering it wrong.

  i thought it was "do not go gentle into that dark night" and "rage against the dying of the moon" for some reason.

  that was a little confusing because the moon has a rebirth and i was wondering what the author's point was.

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  Hey pop, don't go! Curse me, cry over me, live!

  Yeah, but not even that extreme...it dosen't have to be death, a slow withdrawal from life would fit. Common today in our society, perhaps not as common, but still bemoaned by our ancestors.

  When ones way of life is challenged, one uses every resource available. This is an extreme example, but it still fits.