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  Should obesity be a DF offense?

  by jws in

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  a headline on today's usa today says that obesity is the #1 killer.

  if being fat is such a health risk (like cigarettes), why don't the jws disfellowship people for being obese?.

  i know in some cases, people gain weight due to medical problems that are hard to control.

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  loveis

  On another related thread, I mentioned the Questions From Readers (5-1-86 WT) on this very subject, but no one saw fit to post it. Maybe someone could here?
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  Elders only letter: New Publisher Weight Requirements

  by dannyboy in

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  march 8, 2004

  to: all bodies of elders, circuit and district overseers

  dear brothers,

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  loveis

  So, since the Society banned the use of tobacco because of the health effects, to be consistent, they should do the same to anybody who's overweight.

  Regarding this supposed inconsistency, please see the Questions From Readers in the WT of 5-1-86.
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  Did you know you can be df for

  by mouthy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  attending the y.m.c.a & the y.wc.a.

  i knew this years ago.

  but a couple just leaving didnt know this- & they have been jws since 1944.. does differant countries have differant df rules.

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  loveis

  Farkel: WT 1-1-79, Questions From Readers.
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  Question about Judical committees

  by scrubmaster in

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  2. experiences

  if a committed has been formed for an allegation of serious sin and the person does not agree with the charge is there anything the person can do to let the elders now they do not agree with the charge and if the person is not happy with the three elders choosen for the committee is there anything that can be done before the first meeting.

  also a side point, this same person presented evidence of their scriptural freedom just like the society's said is required, the elders had to deliberate over this information even though it was present just as the society stated, my friend went ahead and got married and now all of a sudden the previous information was put on the back burner and my wife and friend now face a judical committee for adultery.

  is this the way elders all ways handle cases, they throw out any information which made be in the person's favor and go right for what can be found written in black and white so they do not have to think?

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  loveis

  RE: Requesting a different committee makeup, I believe you can find something about this in writing in the September 1977 KM (USA edition), main insert.
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  Further Education

  by scotsman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i had lunch with a jw friend who's just finished a law degree.

  she was saying that at the last circuit assembly the bethel speaker, (philip longstaffe) said that the society had not changed its stance on further education, and that college for vocational skills was all that they thought was ok. my friend's a bit of a free thinker (i'd half hoped that this lunch date was to tell me she had doubts, but no) so she doesn't give fig what they think.

  i was actually appointed as an elder the month before i started attending uni and the co had told the other elders it was no reason to prevent my appointment.. anyone else heard this at their assemblies?

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  loveis

  The best way to resolve this dispute would be to turn to the study article that is credited with making the "change" to the understanding about education (I believe it was in the latter half of 1992?) I recall that, at the time, it did not strike me as being any tremendous change to the previous understanding, in harmony with the first 2 posts above.
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  Jury duty???

  by Strawberryfieldsforever in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was just wondering if jury duty was considered taking part in the world.

  i just found out that my mom had jury duty a few months ago and went!

  i've never been a registered voter and thought you had to register to be called to jury duty.

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  loveis

  RE: Jury duty, see the WT of April 1, 1997, QFR on pages 27-29 for the official word (also March 15, 1973 WT pages 190-191 for an older discussion, also Awake of Dec. 8, 1978, pages 27-28).
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  Judge: Comparing JWs to salesmen "insulting degrading hurtful & defamatory"

  by loveis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it seems that, despite being regarded as sales nuisances by so many, jws still seem to have the respect of those whose opinion matters the most.. *** yb02 pp.

  13-14 highlights of the past year ***.

  in quebec, canada, the city of blainville enacted a bylaw stating that people going from door to door for religious purposes must first purchase a permit.

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  loveis

  It seems that, despite being regarded as sales nuisances by so many, JWs still seem to have the respect of those whose opinion matters the most.

  *** yb02 pp. 13-14 Highlights of the Past Year ***

  In Quebec, Canada,

  the city of Blainville enacted a bylaw stating that people going from door to door for religious purposes must first purchase a permit. The permit authorized door-to-door visits only from Monday to Friday, was valid for just two months, and could not be renewed until 12 months had passed. On April 17, 2001, a superior court judge in Quebec ruled that the bylaw does not apply to the public ministry of Jehovah?s Witnesses. The judge stated that Jehovah?s Witnesses were exempt from obtaining a permit and were not bound by limitations of hours, days, months, or years in their door-to-door religious activities. He referred to the ministry of Jehovah?s Witnesses as "a Christian community service" and found that their publications are "serious literature, dealing with subject matters such as religion, the Bible, drugs, alcoholism, youth education, marital problems and divorce." To compare the Witnesses to peddlers, the judge said, is "insulting, degrading, hurtful, and defamatory."

  Hmmm. Any comments?
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  Home school

  by Globetrotter in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my son told me the other day that he and his sister are just about the only kids at the kh their age that go to public/private schools.

  almost all the other kids are home-schooled.

  i was rather shocked.

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  loveis

  RE: Homeschooling, note the balanced and helpful counsel that Witnesses were given in the Awake of April 8, 1993 (pages 9-12), which presented both sides fairly.
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  Clapping

  by Stefanie in

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  2. friends

  i was just remembering in the hall i attended, the "friends" would clap when someone got reinstated, then they stopped when there was a talk from the platform about it being inappropriate.

  i was just wondering why they say something like that.

  and it would seem to me that people going back in were doing them a favor, why would they be so cruel.

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  loveis

  See KM Question Box of February 2000 (and the box on WT 10-1-98 page 17, quoted therein.)
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  Disassociated

  by Euphemism in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just found out that the elders announced meia's and my disassociation at the service meeting this week.

  they'd called me on monday and told me that they were going to; i fired off an appeal letter the next day, and hadn't heard anything, so i thought they might have postopned the announcement.

  i just found out, however, that the meeting was held on monday this week because the other congregation had the co's visit.

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  loveis

  RE: Whether baptism can be nullified, note the QFR in the WT of 3-1-1960 on the similar subject of whether one can claim his baptism was not valid.