Does anyone have a copy of the full text of the judge's decisions on summary judgment, and the disputed documents?
CA_Lawyer, do you perhaps have some access to this that we lay people don't?
hello all- thought this article would be of interest; if this doesn't post correctly, the entire article is on law.com.
edited by hawk to add urls.
front page - click here: http://www.law.com/index.shtml.
Does anyone have a copy of the full text of the judge's decisions on summary judgment, and the disputed documents?
CA_Lawyer, do you perhaps have some access to this that we lay people don't?
i was just reading over the official website of the new hampshire supreme court.
according to official information, the appeal of the civil suit of the berry girls was filed with the court on december 4, 2003, and accepted for review by the court in february 2004, though oral arguments are not yet scheduled.. the appeal was of a lower court's decision the block the suit--i believe on the basis that the elders were not required to report abuse due to clerical privilege.
(iirc the judge making this decision was named groff.
bttt
Here is the thread that reported the decision of the lower court judge to block the suit on grounds of ecclesiastical privilege:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/54228/1.ashx
Members certainly had some choice words for that judge at the time! You might find it timely to re-read some of them
i was just reading over the official website of the new hampshire supreme court.
according to official information, the appeal of the civil suit of the berry girls was filed with the court on december 4, 2003, and accepted for review by the court in february 2004, though oral arguments are not yet scheduled.. the appeal was of a lower court's decision the block the suit--i believe on the basis that the elders were not required to report abuse due to clerical privilege.
(iirc the judge making this decision was named groff.
I was just reading over the official website of the New Hampshire Supreme Court. According to official information, the appeal of the civil suit of the Berry girls was filed with the court on December 4, 2003, and accepted for review by the court in February 2004, though oral arguments are not yet scheduled.
The appeal was of a lower court's decision the block the suit--I believe on the basis that the elders were not required to report abuse due to clerical privilege. (IIRC the judge making this decision was named Groff.) Can anyone link here the thread(s) where this decision was blasted? (June 2003 was when Judge Groff handed down the decision.)
Also, has anyone heard an update on how Barb Anderson's case is progressing?
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i joined my mother in a baptismal act, but did not truly dedicate myself.
i was a young teen then.
i want to rescind this phony baloney act and reclaim my freedom as a human being with free-will.
As for a claim that one's baptism was not valid, for whatever reason legal or otherwise, the WTS of course says no way can you do that and no "annulment" will be accepted. See Questions From Readers in the WT of March 1, 1960.
To my knowledge this has never been tested in court, but if it were it would likely be decided that the 1st Amendment precludes subject matter jurisdiction--i.e., the matter of merely joining a religion is exempt from the enforcement of contract law by lawsuits.
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www.jw-media.org
the beginning of the end?
The beginning of the end??
in a current european case, the wt lawyers refer to a judgment by the court of appeal of new jersey (nyc congregation of jws vs. mrs janice paul, # 819f.2d875, june 10, 1987) about the supposedly non-discriminatory character of the wt disfellowshipping arrangement and the related (shunning) instructions to its members.
according to them, in this case an exjw sued the congregation for slander, breach of private life, fraud and insult as a consequence of her disfellowshipment.
the court decided that the shunning of a disfellowshipped person was protected by the first amendment of the us constitution guaranteeing freedom of worship.
You might find interesting the study article in the 4-15-1988 WT, "Discipline That Can Yield Peaceable Fruit," which was all about this court case (though not mentioning Ms. Paul by name), and of course trumpeted it as living proof that it is impossible to successfully sue for being shunned.
..its almost judgment day...again:.
http://www.jw-media.org/newsroom/index.htm?content=/region/europe/russia/english/releases/religious_freedom/rus_e040307.htm.
will the prosecutor convince the judge this time?
..its almost judgment day...again:
Will the prosecutor convince the judge this time? And if so, will it be the beginning of the end?
this case really pissed me off.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/68106/2.ashx.. so, let's get together and lobby to make non-reporting a felony in all fifty states.
it's bullshit that they continue to get away with it and our children continue to get raped as a result.
In the Minnesota case, as Hawkaw pointed out on another thread, the main thing was that Attorney Anderson was evidently too dumb to see that the reporting law he was relying on provided only for CRIMINAL remedies, not CIVIL ones. In other words, just a legal technicality that made it a super easy slam-dunk for the WTS. (Read the full text of the decision here:
http://www.courts.state.mn.us/opinions/coa/current/opa031142-0309.htm
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Someone posted a thread a while back stating that the case of the Berry girls in New Hampshire is ultimately doomed for fail for the very same reason (Anderson is lead attorney for that case, too, I believe).
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the following article comes out of minnesota and is entitled "annandale church isn't liable in abuse suit.".
i'm off to work now, so don't have time to comment, but would like to post it before i leave.. http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/4655055.html
Here is a link to the full text of the decision for us lawyer wannabes (or even not-so-wannabes):
http://www.courts.state.mn.us/opinions/coa/current/opa031142-0309.htm
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the following article comes out of minnesota and is entitled "annandale church isn't liable in abuse suit.".
i'm off to work now, so don't have time to comment, but would like to post it before i leave.. http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/4655055.html
Wasn't this the case that CNN's Connie Chung raked the WTS about back in August 2002?
Also, didn't she read a letter from the WTS that really got a few peoples' ire up?