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  DA-ing Announcement in the Society's New Book

  by Mark in

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  the society's new book 'organized to do jehovah's will', to be released in the congregations .

  on the 20th of march, introduces a change in the df and da announcements.

  announcements will read the same: "[name of person] is no longer one of jehovah's .

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  Nocturne

  I seriously doubt this will ever happen. Don't you see how they've set themselves up to win either way? If the numbers keep going up, then it's "wonderful that Jehovah is blessing their fold." If the numbers go down, it's because "the love is cooling off in the last days." Either way, they're setting themselves up to still be "Jehovah's earthly organization" to the unknowing.

  Billygoat....that's a really good point. They love to set themselves up so that either way they have an explanation. If the numbers go down, I think they will claim that it was just a new arrangement from Jehovah to cleanse his organization.

  Now I wonder, how many witnesses actually know about the current dissociation policy? I remember, in my entire time in the borg I never heard of anyone being dissociated, and I didn't even know they had that until I found JWD. And for people who are fading, it could make it easier for the elders to dissociate them. I know that when I quit during the summer and the elders got in contact with me, they asked me repeatedly the famous question "do you still consider yourself a jw?" and one even asked me point blank if I wanted to dissociate myself. It makes me wonder if now they will be able to dissociate inactive members who refuse to meet with elders since in a way, they are not accepting "Jehovah's arrangements" to help those that have "cooled off" from the ministry.
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  Filip Disappeared............

  by 95stormfront in

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  i guess his parents pulled the plug on his internet activities.

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  Nocturne

  Depends...when's the last time you've seen him online. I last saw him earlier this week if I'm not mistaken.
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  Is country music more approved than any other for a witness?

  by wordlywife in

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  my husband has recently started listening almost exclusively to country.

  occasionally we would listen to it before, but every time i get in a car he has driven or we are riding he has it on, when before we always had classic rock on.

  i don't mind country music, but this recent change of listening habits in light of his having commenting priveledges back again makes me wonder if listening to anything but country is frowned upon by wt ordinances?

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  Nocturne

  The only music that is not frowned upon is the Kingdom Melodies. Any other music is considered worldly.

  I've actually been to JW parties as a teen where nothing but the Kingdom Melodies were played.

  Holy Crap, and I thought my congregation was bad for stuff like that. I'll never complain about another JW party ever again.
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  need help making a decision again

  by crizlee in

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  i posted about this earlier here .

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/83527/1368961/post.ashx#1368961 .

  i got my papers from a&m and i wnated to live on campus, so i tell my dad if you let me live on campus ill go to the sunday but if i stay here i wont go at all still, and he didnt even answer.

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  Nocturne

  sounds like a good deal, but the question is do you think it's worth it to sell your soul to the WTS for your education? In my experience, it's not a good thing to be completely dependent on your parents given your situation, because then they'll try to use that as a hold on you once you finally start moving towards your independance. I agree with the others who say look for other options at your school's guidance office and explain your situation completely. I would probably only take your parent's offer only as a last resort.

  I'll pm you my email address, and if you have MSN or yahoo messenger if you ever feel the need to talk.

  Nocturne
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  jeanniebeanz welcome to the forum!

  by Valis in

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  welcome to the forum and i hope you enjoy all the stuff we have to offer here.

  lots of jw stuff and also just things for fun, or even meeting up once in a while.

  welcome and it is good you are here!.

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  Nocturne

  Welcome to JWD jeanniebeanz!!! Hope you like it here.
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  Where can I see a copy of the elder's manual? ("Pay Attention To...")

  by AlmostAtheist in

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  hey guys, .

  i need to see a copy of the elder's manual so i have confirmation that i as the family head can attend my wife's "judicial committee".

  i believe that i can, but i want to make sure it's in print somewhere.

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  Nocturne

  I never understood why this book is a "secret". When I read it I was bored!!! I was like, this is it???

  There is nothing really "secret" with the elder's manual. Most of the material in it comes straight from material printed in the WT over the years. The only useful thing it does is it compiles all that info form the WT into one quick reference book where you can find anything you need about how elders are supposed to handle situations within the congregation.
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  Would Your "Spirit-Directed Conscience"Have Made You Walk Out Of A Movie?

  by Englishman in

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  this was a fairly frequent occurence amongst the brothers and sisters in my young dubby days.

  i was heaved out of the cinema on more than one occasion, generally by my mother who reckoned some things were just too much for my innocent young eyes and ears.

  i only half saw:.

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  Nocturne

  I got burnt for seeing Goldeneye

  Dear god!!! that brings back some painful memories.
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  UPDATE: telling my parents I dont believe in God

  by filip in

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  my parents have noticed my negative and sad attidude lately, whenever were going to the meetings or studying and so on.

  but they just think that i am negative and sad in general.

  i dont think they think that its spesifically because im being dragged to the meetings.. so lately we have had a lot of "serious" talks, because theyre worried for me.

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  Nocturne

  filip,

  This is really a tough call. On one hand like you said, your parents might just freak out and try to force you to do more for the "truth". On the other hand, the fact that they're asking might be a sign that they realize that no matter what they do, you might not want to be a jw, and they're ready to accept that possibility.

  but what about now, where theyre actually asking me directly? As Jez said, its tearing me up inside to live a doublelife. Mentally I dont think I can handle the pressure much longer...

  Although I was an adult when i told my mom I didn't want to be a jw anymore, I still felt the same things as you do. At the time I quit, I was still quite dependent on my parents, and I thought that it might be a possibility that I might get kicked out of the house. Towards the end of my stint as a JW, the same thing was happening to me as living the doublelife was starting to take it's toll on me, it came to a point where I couldn't handle it anymore. But my mom was also noticing a big change in my personality similar to the way your parents have noticed a change, and on many occasions, my mom asked me if I still wanted to be a jw. During those times, I lied and said yes out of fear and guilt.

  The point is, at that time I made the decisions on what I thought was best for myself given the situation. I can't tell you what to do, especially in a situation like this. You know how your parents are, and when it comes to something like this, it's almost a wild guess as to how they're going to react. The only thing I can tell you, is to do what you perceive is best for yourself given your situation. Good luck figuring out what to do.

  Nocturne
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  Revenge of the Sith

  by Big Tex in

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  http://www.thepsychotic.com/

  this site has some cool graphics shots from the latest star wars movie.

  these are high resolution promo pictures with lightsaber effects done.

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  Nocturne

  The Sith Lords is due out on PC next month! Knights of the Old Republic last year had one of the best plots of any game, and IMO, it was better than the last two movies. Has anybody played it on console yet? Does it really rock?

  I can hardly wait.

  Tammy

  I've played it on console, and this one was much better than the last one. However the console version is very buggy, and experiences some severe framerate slowdowns in battles involving many enemies, or when using certain force powers (i.e. Force Storm) too much. Also, the game is very easy like the first one. If you liked the first one, you will love The Sith Lords.
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  Does anyone know what an S-8 is? (hands up)

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  can you remember that far back?

  have you got any kicking around?

  did you call them s-8s in america too?

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  Nocturne

  I got to fill my own one in, the night before I DA'ed - LOL

  ROTFLMAO!! How many people here can say that?