the government allows people to salute or not salute the flag, the government allows people to decide for themselves whether or not they will celebrate their birthday, Orthodox Christmas or the Jewish Passover. These matters are part of our private life. They are a matter of personal choice. The above is from the informative article posted Will I be disfellowshiped if I practice all of the above?
galaxy7
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Are Jehovah's Witnesses refusing medical treatment? Not one of them does so
by garybuss inare jehovah's witnesses refusing medical treatment?
get your barf bags .
http://www.jw-media.org/region/europe/russia/english/moscow/e_crt990216.htm.
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Many a "TRUE" word is spoken in Jest
by galaxy7 inone day the emperor who had no clothes (the emperor who drank) decided he wanted to expand his kingdom he called for one of none .the emperor said one of none i am sending you to where the sun almost rises go and and sell these special magazines and you will no longer be one of none.
one of none happily went forth because you see he thought the emperor wore fine cloths many many years went by and one of none became one of many though we really dont know because the numbers are hidden..the emperor who drank died and another emperor came still with no clothes.
the light was getting brighter and brighter and the emperor who had no clothes decided he would rather be a slave all this time one of none who was busy making many was totally unawear of the change in the kingdom.
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galaxy7
One day the Emperor who had no clothes (The Emperor who drank) decided he wanted to expand his kingdom He called for One of none .The Emperor said One of none I am sending you to where the sun almost rises Go and and sell these special magazines and you will no longer be One of none. One of none happily went forth because you see he thought the emperor wore fine cloths Many many years went by and One of none became one of many though we really dont know because the numbers are hidden..The Emperor who drank died and another emperor came still with no clothes. The light was getting brighter and brighter and the Emperor who had no clothes decided he would rather be a slave All this time One of none who was busy making many was totally unawear of the change in the Kingdom. Now those of us who know the Emperor really didnt have any clothes will not be suprised to hear that the Slave who was once the Emperor had a conversation with the Prince of all the provences where the sun almost rises The prince said "tell me who is in our lands and we will give you freedom to go forth and sell your special magazines" Now readers you maybe wondering about poor One of none who had served faithfully the Emperor and then the slave. Well he heard on the celestial grape vine that there would be an agreement with the Prince where the sun almost rises. With great fear he said" Dont believe the Prince where the sun almost rises", poor One of none packed up his special magazines and left for safer harbours. With One of none safe back at home, the slave who carries the light that gets both dim and bright gave all the names of the many whom one of none had taught and also the ones he hadnt taught but who were sent by the slave with the light that burns both dim and bright.With the many in jail the story ends,The Prince where the sun almost rises was happy and decided they still didnt need any special magazines in thier land.One of none retired and never thought about the many again beacause the slave that carrys the light that is both dim and bright still had nice clothes . Dear readers we do not know what happened to the many or to the ones the slave had sent. So to all of us who always knew in our hearts that the Emperor really had no clothes let us have a moments prayer to the many that One of None had taught and the ones that were sent The End He that hath an ear, let him hear
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The Drive Home Tonight,Crying.
by Blueblades inlet's see,where do i start?i decided to have a quiet drive home after work.it takes about one and half hours.no cd playing,no talk radio,no news, just a quiet drive listening to my own thoughts.i'm not concentrating on any one thing,just kind of letting my mind flow wherever it wants to.. then it starts,my mind goes back to when our children were small.as i'm driving i am having this flashback,i'm going to save my family from dying at armageddon,why the little ones are dependant on us for their future life happiness.. there will be no birthday parties,holiday celebrations,even though one of them was born on the 4th of july.no extra-curricular activities at school,and everyone will know that they don't salute the flag,nor sing the national anthem.and at the infirmary they know that they are not to take blood.. after school homework,the preparing for meetings,more studying comes next.no tv.
tonight,it's a meeting night.oh goody,the weekend is here,now we can go out and play.sorry,we have to go out in field service,mommy and daddy will show you how to have so much fun in the field service on saturday and sunday.. i start to cry,literally,there is real pain in my chest and a lump in my throat.as i have this flashback on the drive home tonight.i think of how i robbed my children of their childhood,i'm getting very emotional and angry,a picture flashes across my mind of all those years,30 plus,that i lost for my wife and children.the opportunities that we turned down,we are going to survive armageddon!.
i have had a talked with my family about my regrets over having put my family through this before and they don't blame me.they feel that i was doing what i thought was the best for them at the time.they forgive me,but i having yet forgiven myself.. the family says that they learned something about life,religion etc.that the experience has not made them bitter,and they have moved on.the children are happily married and doing fine.my wife and i are doing the best that we can with what time we have left.we are in our sixties,no retirement or pension fund.taking it day to day.. this is what happened on the quiet drive home tonight,it's been a year and a half of being inactive and still the flashbacks of the past 30 something years in the watchtower and all of what that has entail in raising my family still wells up inside me when i try to rest my mind and think of nothing.. i cried all the way home for one and a half hours,pain in my chest and heart,my head feeling like it would explode,angry at the society for the big chunk of life that they stole from us.. and i thought of so many others sharing the same feelings and experiences as my family,and those still stuck inside.soon as i arrived home,i collected myself together and said:"hi honey,i'm home!
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galaxy7
What a beautiful post.
You brought back memories for me that I cant put into words as good as you
You said it all
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Question about UN assoication
by pc inthe wtbs said they had to join to use the library is that true?
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galaxy7
I down loaded what i could find about the org and the un
Last night i showed them to my husband,a still active witness
he read and reread them over and over again, he kept saying there must be a good reason
His JW mind would not let him accept what he was seeing.(amazing to see that in action)
After half an hour of staring at the computer screen he said "Its only a library card"
Thats when I saw red
I said We cant have a dam christmas tree because we have to "Get out of her my people"
But the ORG can go right to the wild beast for a library card.Give me a break are there no other libraries
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How old were you when you left?
by somebodylovesme ini only know a handful of witnesses, but i do know several ex-witnesses.
all of them left in their late teens, which (as i've read here) is pretty common.
i know there are a lot of people here who left later in life.
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galaxy7
Indoctrinated at birth
But all my immediate,distant,far distant relitives are in the ORG including my husband and his family.
Now i Have to go to the Memorial and the conventions to keep peace and harmony in my home
I have a weekly bible study and listen to the daily text
After that I come here to "friends" to get my sanity back and to get grounded in reality once again
I guess I left in my heart at 21
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Did the Watchtower leave you in a No-Man's Land?
by JH in.
after becoming a witness, slowly we became programmed to believe that 99% of the world was not approved by god and that they were evil, and in the darkness, and would all die at armageddon.. most of us left the watchtower, or are on the verge of doing so, so at a certain point it's normal to be in a so called no man's land, where you don't believe what the watchtower taught and at the same time you still believe that the entire world is not approved by god.
i was just wondering how long you stead in this mode of beleiving that the watchtower teachings were wrong, but at the same time, you still remembered and believed that the world was also doomed?
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galaxy7
Staceman you said it perfectly. I shudder when I think of how smug I was in thinking I was amongst the chosen few.How silly I must have sounded to freeminded intellegent persons when explaining how we came to 1914.How socially inept I felt and I really believed only"I" was going through this wilderness.
It has taken a long time for me to realize I am not in a No-Mans land that the ORG is that place.
I am surprised at how th ORGs fingers have wrapped around so many people and for some the hold still seems quite strong
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When does it get better?
by MonkeyPrincess inwhen will the guilty feeling of leaving the org go away?
i am feeling at my lowest point right now, and its terrible.
this after visiting my parents and feeling that awkward tension building between us.
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galaxy7
You are doing the right thing and I beieve you are strong enough to continue on your new path.
The hardest thing I believe for all of us is when we find out the love we thought we were getting was conditional .Find joy in bringing your children up with unconditional love give them the joy of childhood fantasy and the wonder of Christmas,Give them the happiness of birthday parties where they will grow to know they are special in your eyes.Let them love you by making that special card at mothers day.
Show them you are proud of their achievements in THIS world and that there are good people to be found everywhere.Visit other denominations of religion and you will find many believing in god and they are better people than what you have previously been led to believe.
Research the JW beliefs that we here all know is false doctrine.There are many sites on the internet to help you.Fellowship with people here who give unconditional love and have walked this road before you.
It is better to walk hand in hand than alone.It will get better because you are strong enough NOT to let the organization dictate your happiness for the rest of your life.
Be strong for yourself and your family and know all is right with the world you are FREE
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A Girl And Her Pig
by Valis inwell, its time for stock shows and cfb has shown her first pig at the city stock show.
she won the blue riboon and got a spot in the county stock show this coming weekend.
i am hoping to make it down for this weekend, but that may not happen.
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galaxy7
What a beautiful set of pictures She has raised a good looking pig Made my day, Thankyou
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Awake!: Caption Time!
by Stephanus inhere's a typical awake!
cover showing the sorts of problems we have that won't be solved until 99.999% of the population die at armageddon:.
here's the cover with the text editted out to help you in your captioning quest:.
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galaxy7
My contribution
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JWs and Shunning on the Radio at KFUO.org this Saturday at 11AM Central
by jschwehm inhi gang:.
this saturday at 11am central time i will be a guest on the show family shield which is broadcasted out of st. louis, mo at kfuo.
you can listen online at www.kfuo.org.
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galaxy7
Go for it.I wouldnt miss it