Iraq had nothing to do with "9-11." It was long expected that a Bush administration would overturn Saddam Hussein, expected before November 2000. "9-11" was a useful pretext for this policy, as well as for "Homeland Security" and the "Patriot" Act. "9-11" evokes fear in the public mind. Many of the fearful will rally around their president. Fear is one of the most powerful tools in the politician's arsenal. Fear produces acquiescence.
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Bush Ads & 9-11
by ThiChi inpassing this on, i agree 100%:
can you imagine abraham lincoln running without mentioning his leadership during the civil war?
can you imagine fdr running without mentioning his accomplishments during world war ii?
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Mark of the Wild Beast (666) Calculation - 6x6+6=42 (Bush=42 President)
by Brownboy in.
what do you think??
more info to follow..............
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slenderdog
Revelation or not, GW Bush is a beastly character to be sure.
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That Elder Mentality
by Englishman inexactly what does it mean to have "an elder mentality"?
i'm curious.
elders didn't exist when i left the jw's.
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Not all elders are bad, though. Some are genuinely concerned for the flock, in my experience, and some even give good advice. But there seems to be a great rush to appoint new elders from the ranks of ministerial servants "reaching out" (straining themselves to be noticed by the CO). My feeling is that politically these men must be rewarded as they are "pillars," lest they lose interest, stuck on mike and magazine duty for years, and cease to be active. Thus we have a plethora of underqualified, overzealous elders, not appointed for their ability, but rewarded for their outward display of "faith." Much too much like worldly politics, where the best men don't get elected, the best campaigners do.
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That Elder Mentality
by Englishman inexactly what does it mean to have "an elder mentality"?
i'm curious.
elders didn't exist when i left the jw's.
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Franklin J, good point about the younger elders. An oxymoron, but the example of Timothy is wheeled out to counter the criticism that young men generally are not mature enough to guide other people's lives, which, like it or not, the flock expect. Young men, it seems, are appointed for political reasons--in Ireland, for example, they are appointed because a) they are Irish (not English), or b) there aren't enough elders among the 30 member congregation, or c) elder so & so likes MS so & so or is related to him or cleans windows with him and wants him to be an elder. All bad reasons to put a man in a position of authority. So much for spirit direction.
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That Elder Mentality
by Englishman inexactly what does it mean to have "an elder mentality"?
i'm curious.
elders didn't exist when i left the jw's.
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slenderdog
'Tis all politics. These are men who are not allowed to pursue success in the wider world by their religious beliefs, but who can enjoy prestige within their "spirit directed" world. Elders are politicians unconstrained by normal political considerations thanks to the doctrines they purvey.
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LEAST FAVORITE MEETING
by new light init's so hard to choose, but i would have to say the theocratic ministry school was my most hated meeting.
the first few talks were a rephrasing of mind-numbing society doctrine.
then it was time to listen to a ten-year old read nwt to us........... #3 talks, don't even get me started!
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slenderdog
They were all so bad, it's hard to choose one. But the WT study would have to be the worst. Painstakingly poring over the precious pablum regurgitated by our Bethelite brothers sent me into paroxysms of wondering what was for lunch, or what sister so & so would be like in bed (Jehovah forgive me)!
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NEWS: Governing Body Welcomes New Members
by slipnslidemaster ingoverning body welcomes new members .
friday, may 17, 2:34pm et.
brooklyn heights, ny (ap) - the governing body of the christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses (formerly the watchtower bible and tract society of new york) named four new members to their ranks yesterday according to a press release.
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slenderdog
Attention Ted Jaracz: If you can't hold your excrement any longer, try using BOTH hands.
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Curious about something ?
by Nadsam inwho has the real truth then ?.
i found this forum last year and since then i have read many posts.
many people are still eager to quote from the bible etc.its almost as if they are still jw's.
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slenderdog
We all have a grasp of some aspects of truth, but truth encompasses all of existence and is in its entirety beyond the grasp of any one human being at any given time. Truth can be glimpsed from innumerable perspectives through innumerable media. Can we, will we, ever know truth, fully and finally? Only through faith can we answer with certainty.
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A boiling pot of emotions
by JV ini'm not baptized, but i do go out in service, not much now that i'm getting a post secondary education.
i wasn't raised a jw and this is where i run into a lot of problems, the things i like to do don't really jive with the wts.
i played comptive sports in high school and college.
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JV Like you I never had anything to say to anyone at the meetings. It's a sign that you just don't belong with these people. I used to dread going to meetings. Used to arrive late and leave early. Finally I saw no point in "meeting" with people I only wanted to avoid. Good luck!
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Are you a people person or a loner?
by Strawberryfieldsforever ini've heard that there are people who thrive on being with people.
they gain energy from it.
then there are the loners who gain energy from being alone.
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slenderdog
Mostly I am a loner. I do find, though, that I dread attending parties or events beforehand, but really enjoy them once I am there. I wonder whether the solitary tendencies of those who have contributed to this thread kept them from "bonding" with the JW world. I used to be annoyed no end at meetings when people I barely knew asked personal questions.