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  TO: MAXIMUS & SEEKER--RE: TROLLISM OR TRUTH

  by MadApostate in

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  the xjw mafia's attack on myself has progressed from underhanded insinuations of "trollism", to alanf's and farkel's failed attempts last week to label me a "wts troll", to yesterday's fullblown attack conducted by kent, tina, and even some of their buddies posing as new posters.

  e.h. even accused me of being the same person as "utilitarian reformist".

  (wrong!).

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  Anchor

  This is not a thread to be buried. I picked up on some points in Maximus' last comments that rang chimes.

  I do not want to judge Mad Apostate like a look at the cover of the book either.

  -A
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  Reply to AF-Part I

  by dunsscot in

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  :: he didn't merely suspend it -- he substituted another for it.

  in our case here, therefore, god's telling abraham to kill isaac was by definition not murder.

  : first, i am not sure what i believe in this case.

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  It's much more efficient nowadays.

  Where does that $25 go today? Directly to the Society. Pioneer gets nothing. He didn't get rich before, that's true.

  Do the math. Who gets rich today? Who gets double the money they used to, considerably more than they got from the pioneer??

  -A
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  Newbies! The Deception:An Example

  by zev in

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  yesterday, in this thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=9805&site=3 i spouted these words: happened to drag rays book, isocf from its hidding place in my car....at lunch time today.. i opened to any page, i needed to brighten my day like no other j-dub borg book, could ever do.. .

  i found a deception for the many newbies, trolls and plants that have been visiting us here in spiritual paradise, aka:simons board .

  i cant post it till tommorow, because i cant bring that book into the house while the j-dub wife is trolling around.

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  First rate, Zev! Well done.

  If anyoe deals with any of their lawyers, you will find they not only deceive, they flat out lie on a regular basis - any time - with ease. Perhaps someone has a story of how they buy their way out of custody cases or otherwise just throw their weight around.

  Later they wonder why our kids lead "double" lives, the Kingdom Hall life and then the normal one - secretive - not necessarily doing anything wrong, just normal.

  We close our eyes to this war strategy at the risk of harming our conscience.

  -A
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  BERRY LAWSUIT EVALUATED

  by MadApostate in

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  i would like to preface my discussion of the recently filed berry lawsuit with several remarks.

  first, i am not an attorney, and my only connection with the legal profession is that which occasionally arises out of my personal or business affairs.

  second, i have no access to court records, opinions, etc., other than what is available via internet search engines.

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  Don't want anyone to miss the information above.

  -A
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  Reply to AF-Part I

  by dunsscot in

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  :: he didn't merely suspend it -- he substituted another for it.

  in our case here, therefore, god's telling abraham to kill isaac was by definition not murder.

  : first, i am not sure what i believe in this case.

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  : Anchor, you thinking mechanism shut down. [SIC]

  : His documented mental problems

  It is not my thinking mechanism that has shut down, it is your Christianity and your moral compass. Have you no shame? At long last, have you no shame?

  Supply the documentation or stand before us as the liar you are.

  -A
  Edit: On second thought, I have no further interest in watching Mishnah/Duns preen any more. I'm out of here.
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  Pedophilia, slander, the process, culpability

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  1. jane doe reports her suspicion to elders that her jw husband is sexually molesting their two daughters.

  2. jw elders initiate an investigation.. 3. suspect husband denies the crime.. 4. children do not corroborate the accusation.

  5. medical examiners do not offer any corroboration of the accusation.

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  I hope any lurking elders and traveling men read this very carefully. Bringing to the top.

  -A
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  Watchtower PR Statement 8-7-01

  by silentlambs in

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  public affairs office.

  for immediate release august7, 2001 .

  sexual abuse of children is a terrible crime that can leave lasting emotional scars on its victims.

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  You must read this if you haven't yet done so.

  -A
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  607 + Nebuzaradan -- what's up

  by cyberguy in

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  in pay attention to daniel's prophesy p. 46 par.

  2, the dan.

  in daniel 2:14-15, arioch is mentioned as being the "chief to the king's bodyguard" (see insight, vol.

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  Thank you, cyberguy, for this very fine presentation.

  While it appeared daunting at first, I did wrestle with the information.

  It makes complete sense, and is consistent.

  : as Acts 3:24 points out directly, this "restoration of all things," was already taking place, for "all the prophets, in fact, from Samuel on and those in succession, just as many as have spoken, have also plainly declared these days" (Acts 3:24). In other words, it was occurring then, not at some future time, such as 1914!

  That's a key point for me, together with a straightforward reading of Luke 21.

  I also heard the ring of truth when I read about blood
  http://www.jwbloodreview.org

  Welcome! I hope you will continue to present such material.

  -A
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  Reply to AF-Part I

  by dunsscot in

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  :: he didn't merely suspend it -- he substituted another for it.

  in our case here, therefore, god's telling abraham to kill isaac was by definition not murder.

  : first, i am not sure what i believe in this case.

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  : I was recently told that he has had prior psychological problems and even sought professional help

  Well that really discredits what AlanF writes, now doesn't it?

  Resorting to this kind of very sick "disclosure" and attempt to discredit ruins any attempt you make to reason with me. You just made Deacon's argument for him. I now have another good reason to believe that YOU, Mishnah, are Duns.

  Go back into the woodwork or wherever you have been. We value truth here, not rumor and crap like you just posted above, and we cherish plain speech that helps not opaquely obfuscates.

  Do you really think the kind of display you "two" put on will in any way win ANYONE to the lofty principles of Christianity? You have made asses of yourselves in this whole silly affair.

  The Master did not teach that way. Go, learn.

  -A
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  BERRY LAWSUIT EVALUATED

  by MadApostate in

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  i would like to preface my discussion of the recently filed berry lawsuit with several remarks.

  first, i am not an attorney, and my only connection with the legal profession is that which occasionally arises out of my personal or business affairs.

  second, i have no access to court records, opinions, etc., other than what is available via internet search engines.

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  Mad One,

  Don't have answers for you myself and can't hazard a guess.

  Anewperson,

  : Judah Ben Schroder oversees international affairs for the Watchtower Society and given his legal background and closeness to his father Albert Schroeder of the Gov. Body anyone reading this will realize his procedings are not minor.

  Where did you come to this conclusion? You are wrong. Don Adams is the new President of the Watch Tower Society, and it is he who oversees the international end. Not to be unkind, but you just don't know what you are talking about and remind me of that group in Russia or in the Eastern bloc.

  Judah Ben has no legal training whatsoever. Anyone who knows him will tell you he has not over any international relations. You probably saw his name on a press release such as in Great Britain, because he handled that for the now-reorganized Public Affairs department which he's no longer with.

  If you do not choose to call Watchtower to verify it as suggested, why not call Randy Watters? You seem to have regard for him--I visited your site. You have been misled by someone, and not the people on this thread. All of us want to see Watchtower sued TO CHANGE POLICY. None of us wants to protect Watchtower, the folks here are dialogueing to get at specifics.

  Why am I taking time to reply? I have been lied to for a very long time; better said, I have let myself be lied to it. Don't spend the rest of your life based on rumor, find out for yourself anything you want to. You will have a new sense of freedom that is amazing.

  -A