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  JW Child Abuse: An Insider's Insight

  by silentlambs in

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  2. child-abuse

  i post the following at the request of barbara anderson.. .

  as a result of the newspaper report calling attention to my actions i feel compelled to provide further information that has come to light and deserves full exposure.. the society is very much aware of my intentions, because of a private e-mail i innocently wrote someone was forwarded to the society without my permission.

  you can read it in its entirety, below.

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  In the last few days I have complained bitterly to a district overseer who has been around the block more than once. To my surprise I found him very familiar with the abuse issue and most sympathetic for real change that would embody a clear message to all that there must be reporting.

  He says if no major changes take place in the organization soon, elders will be leaving in even more droves. His take is that the Society is promising the moon to drum up hope to hang on until the next Ministerial Training School November/December, and that he was personally told by a member of the GB that the school would redirect the brothers' thinking along more spiritual lines, with more attention to advancing Kingdom interests with urgency rather than just living clean lives, having good jobs, and so on.

  I swear to God I laughed out loud at this language-- it sounded so ridiculous. He did too! We both shook our heads at the silly article in the km just out, and agreed that if this is how they really think, they deserve what they get in the way of a mass exodus. It was one of those lucid moments of truth you have. I wonder if he will pull down the mental curtain, or tune out the dissonance, or --

  What does this have to do with the Andersons? Everything, I think. I believe that this issue is like a fulcrum. "Give me a fulcrum and I can move the world." Well, I think this is happening, and I don't think it is wishful thinking.

  To say "thanks" sounds puny and artificial, but I can do nothing less.

  Thank you, Barbara.

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  JW Kids Leave the Organization: Facts

  by Maximus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the october 1 watchtower 2001 features articles on training children "properly" and dealing with a "prodigal child.

  the latest inside u.s. figures reveal that 86% of jw children leave the fold, with some 29% who eventually come back for reasons of family ties, most never "reaching out.

  " that means over half leave permanently.

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  <What keeps them from acting, especially out in the open, where their acts might carry added weight owing to their reputation as men of integrity?>

  You must be kidding, or very new in the organization. What acts?

  Good reputations count for squat when it comes to getting votes on the Governing Body. The system has eaten up the best men it has produced.

  Arm chair quarterbacks are a dime a dozen, myself included.

  My $0.03

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  Ritzville News /Deepthroat

  by silentlambs in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  tri-city herald.

  by shirley wentworth.

  ritzville - erica rodriguez and her mother, alejandra garza, broke down and cried when the verdict came in.. it took slightly less than four hours for a seven-man, five-woman adams county superior court jury to declare manuel beliz, 48, of othello guilty of two counts of first-degree child rape and two counts of first-degree child molestation.

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  Memo to William:

  How about giving each such story a new title or something; when I spoke to someone about this post, they had missed it, thinking there was just one and they had already read it.

  What was buried in this story will send some people scrambling for their parachutes, golden or not.

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  Thank You Ray Franz.

  by Martini in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello friends,.

  in a thread over at witnesses.net entitled "society bracing for law suits" fellow jw's are taking swipes at ray franz.

  not too long ago, while i was still under the wt spell i also would have similarily spoken abusively of ray.

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  Ray tooting his own horn? Everything "too perfect"?
  Did you really read his books????

  Lie to you? Tell you everything you want to hear like your Dad?

  Wiz, you are an extremely poor judge of "tone" as well as character.

  Unless you are GodRules starting all over again.

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  The Jehovah's Witness Meal Delivery Program

  by kents_ghost in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the jehovah's witness meal delivery program.

  jehovah's witnesses want to receive government funds in order to launch a free meal delivery service to help out the poor and disabled.

  jehovah's witnesses will go door to door delivering meals, preparing the food, and also helping the disabled out with various household chores and errands.

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  I've just signed up for the Satanist Day Care Center the article talks about.

  Thanks!

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  Blood = Organ Transplant Awake! '99

  by waiting in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this was posted by jang at another forum, she had not seen it before either.. has this been questioned, talked about, etc?

  i've not heard anything on it...... but then that's sometimes the case with me..

  awake aug 22 1999 page 31 states: .

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  GASP!

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  JW Kids Leave the Organization: Facts

  by Maximus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the october 1 watchtower 2001 features articles on training children "properly" and dealing with a "prodigal child.

  the latest inside u.s. figures reveal that 86% of jw children leave the fold, with some 29% who eventually come back for reasons of family ties, most never "reaching out.

  " that means over half leave permanently.

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  < agree with most of what has been said on this thread, except that the figures are greatly exaggerated.>

  You either misread or are misinformed. Read it again, or disagree. Facts are facts.

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  JW Kids Leave the Organization: Facts

  by Maximus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the october 1 watchtower 2001 features articles on training children "properly" and dealing with a "prodigal child.

  the latest inside u.s. figures reveal that 86% of jw children leave the fold, with some 29% who eventually come back for reasons of family ties, most never "reaching out.

  " that means over half leave permanently.

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  <Methinks the problems of the Watchtower are exaggerated. There methodology clearly produces growth, this is an undisputed fact.>

  No, Larc is correct on this. Their growth has been dismal, and insiders know it all too well. As to the child abuse issue going over the heads of 95% of the Witness audience for Dateline, that could be true because they will want to hear only good things and drown out the bad.

  The American public will see a vastly different picture of what is not just your Aunt Matilda's kookie religion that wakes you up by a knock on the door once in awhile. I bet it will be put up on Internet sites as an accessible program too. Can you hear Jay Leno talking about JW pedos? Or other late night show hosts?

  There are huge problems in Germany and France right now, and you can forget growth in Japan, once a shining example to the rest of the world in terms of evangelistic growth. They are banking on the Ministerial Training Schools coming up to regroup and retrench.

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  Watchtower PR Statement 8-7-01

  by silentlambs in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  public affairs office.

  for immediate release august7, 2001 .

  sexual abuse of children is a terrible crime that can leave lasting emotional scars on its victims.

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  : Like any organization, religious or otherwise, there are bad and there are good people.

  : Unfortunately, bad news travels more quickly and nobody likes to pass along good rumors.

  Robdar, you miss the point. What you say is obvious; we know that.

  The argument we have is against Watchtower policy. Child molestation needs to be lifted out of the arena of judicial proceedings. Period. No one is talking about rumor, we are speaking of facts. Welcome, but read the threads and become informed.

  Haven't you folks learned of cases in which molested ones were DFd because they did not scream? Was foolishly treated as rape.

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  Silentlambs In Action

  by bajarama in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  my sister and i just got back from ritzville.

  i know i'll ever be the same after my experience there.

  it made me feel good to hear the click of the handcuffs, and watch the officers remove him from the courtroom.. i want to say to erica, you and your family are heroes!

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  : Was the man disfellowshipped from the congregation?

  : Was Erika asked to testify in the case?

  Humble, you have not read anything about this case or you are playing dumb. The idea was to support Erika in her testimony, since JWs jeered her previously, JWs called her a slut and JWs threatened to kill her at her last court appearance.

  Of course she testified and had to relive the horror all over again. He did not confess to the elders and the JW-required two witnesses were not sufficient to DF the molester. He'll be sentenced by Caesar, as he should be. Another publisher in prison, without the DF. When he is out, by your JW policy he may if he SEEMS repentant even become an elder. That's a fact, as shown in letters to BOE.

  You should apologize for the ugly policy not people who stupidly follow it. That cavalierly palms it off on imperfect men who rape children. Apologize for the code of silence that has ruined people's lives. The Child Blood Abuse policy kills them.

  Wise up. I have little sympathy for you.

  Anchor