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  Raised as JW

  by ReverendRoy in

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  as a former jehovah's witness i can both empathize and sympathize with you and the many others that have written here.

  i apologize for the long post.

  although i have posted this under a different heading, commie chris recommended a new toipic, thanks!.

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  Andee

  Hi RR,

  Thanks for your post. Just wanted to let you know how much I can relate to your story. My family faded from the Org when I was 10. However, my still believing father, still believed most, if not all of the teachings.

  I also dealt with an alcoholic Dad, abuse and being the "outsider" as a kid. I remember arguing with the neighborhood kids about there being no hell. Not only were we JW's, we also had to deal with the chaos of a substance abusing parent. Either one of those is a nightmare, but both is overwhelmingly difficult to overcome. I struggled with a lot of depression in my 20's. I'm almost 40 now.

  I also understand the about the "winds" changing at the WTS. After nearly 20 years of shunning but JW relatives want to have contact again. I did ask one if the rules of changed, he responded "No" and informed me that he would NOT "debate" the issue. As I explore this website and other sources, the flip-flopping (new light) back and forth is appalling.

  I also had a similiar experience with my Father that you had with your Mother regarding my children. Now, granted he didn't say it to "ME" because I would have become completely unglued. Anyway, he expressed to my step-mother that he just didn't understand why I was having children because the were going to die anyway. Big suprise that he doesn't have much contact with them.

  Welcome to the board!

  Andee
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  Free Home Bible Study

  by MadApostate in

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  a happy future!.

  a warm embrace from someone you love.

  hearty laughter during a good meal with dear friends.

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  Andee

  Hey Mad,

  I got the intent and humor of your post.

  Andee
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  How about 10 favourite albums (er, cd's)

  by amicus in

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  2. entertainment

  how about your 10 all time favourite cd's.

  mine:.

  beach boy's -pet sounds.

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  Andee

  It's been a kick to read everyones posts.

  Mine are:

  Hole-Celebrity Skin

  Elton John-Goodbye Yellow Brick Road

  U2-The Joshua Tree

  Nirvana-Nevermind

  Bonnie Raitt-Nick of Time

  Patsy Cline-The Patsy Cline Story

  CCR-Cronicle

  Tom Petty-Full Moon Fever

  Operas Golden Moments

  Anything Beatles
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  From Lurker to Newbie

  by Silverleaf in

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  i've been lurking on this board for a few months and realize i'm addicted so i finally decided to post.

  i'm not a witness and never was - i was shunned before i could even begin to study because i asked too many hard questions and had the audacity to want to be engaged to jw.

  the relationship ended when his 'loving family in the truth' told him they would shun him if he didn't break it off.

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  Andee

  Hi Silverleaf...

  I'm still pretty new here also. Welcome!

  Hi California Sunshine. From one Californian to another..Welcome!

  Andee
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  Give blood?

  by spike in

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  i had a conversation with my doctor.

  i decided to use blood.

  i wanted to know my blood type.

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  Andee

  Spike,

  YES! Give blood! Even if your reasons are for getting your blood type. One of the reasons my 9 year old daughter, a leukemia survivor, lives today is because someone gave blood.

  It doesn't hurt much (needle prick), doesn't take much time, and they usually give you plenty of goodies to eat.

  Andee
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  Appealing to the heart w/JWs

  by Introspection in

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  it seems to me that a head on discussion about how the doctrines may not make sense wouldn't always work, in fact it would seem that it's an exceptional jw who sits down logically and concludes "hmm, yes i see my beliefs were incorrect, therefore i will change them today.

  thank you for that very informative information.

  " while it may sound trite, i think the key is to appeal to people's hearts.. i guess this often happens spontaneously and can't be planned, after all it depends on the state of mind of both parties involved.

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  Well it occurs to me that regardless of the belief of that nearness, even JWs has to acknowledge that you wouldn't want to serve God or be a loving person just to get into the new system, I mean that is really a selfish motive, and frankly it wouldn't be love then. I guess this is a small point which is unlikely to make them leave the organization, but even this may cause them to think and see that statement in a different light when they hear it from others in the congregation or from the platform.

  I think you make an interesting point here. It's like asking WHAT is the GOAL or PURPOSE of being a witness. One would probably get a lot of lofty answers like "serving Jehovah" and "sharing the good news", etc. However, what is the GOAL or PURPOSE of doing that? I suppose it could be pleasing Jehovah. Which, of course, gets one a better chance of securing a ticket to paradise. That, it seems to me, is the big payoff.

  I did say something similiar to one of my witness relatives recently. After some discussion I posed the question.."Paradise, that is the goal, isn't it"? She didn't answer, but I could tell she was thinking about it.

  Andee
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  Mormons phoned for the last time - I hope

  by philo in

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  i had a follow up phone call from the mormons today wanting to arrange for house visit no.

  2. the first visit had been a game where i asked questions and they wriggled about a bit so as not to address them -- it brought back dub memories, i'm telling you.. it went like this.... who will survive the world's judgement day?

  only mormons and exceptional individuals.. how about me?

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  Thanks for posting the pic, Dana. Is it authentic LDS? Am I wrong about the hat? I read that in a book sometime ago.

  I was also thinking that maybe that was J.S after a night at the local saloon, but I remembered that Mormons don't drink!
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  Mormons phoned for the last time - I hope

  by philo in

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  i had a follow up phone call from the mormons today wanting to arrange for house visit no.

  2. the first visit had been a game where i asked questions and they wriggled about a bit so as not to address them -- it brought back dub memories, i'm telling you.. it went like this.... who will survive the world's judgement day?

  only mormons and exceptional individuals.. how about me?

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  Andee

  Here's a little piece of trivia:

  Joseph Smith, the founder of the Latter Day Saints (as they prefer to be called), or Mormons, received all of his devine inspiration for the Book of Mormon by putting his face into a hat. I think it was a cowboy hat!

  Yeeeeeee Hawwwwwwww!
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  Define Perfection?

  by Andee in

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  i see the words "perfect and "imperfect" used a lot by the org and my jw relatives.

  in regards to my jw relatives, it is used usually to explain away mistakes and just plain bad behavior.

  in other words, "the org.

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  Andee

  I see the words "Perfect and "Imperfect" used a lot by the Org and my JW relatives.

  In regards to my JW relatives, it is used usually to explain away mistakes and just plain bad behavior. In other words, "the Org. made me do it" and I'm not responsible.

  Or someone trying to be the "perfect" witness. What is that?

  My Question for the board: What exactly IS perfection? Can it be defined? How can one claim to be imperfect if one does not know what perfection is? Does perfect fall into the "We don't know" catagory like "truth" does, because in the end it is subjective?

  Andee
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  10 movies > stuck on an island

  by Bendrr in

  1. jw
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  to carry the island thing further, if you were stuck on an island what 10 movies would you have?.

  1. superman.

  2. airplane!.

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  Andee

  10? Ok..here goes:

  In no particular order.

  Fast Times as Ridgemont High

  Sixteen Candles "What are you complaining about? I have to sleep
  under some guy named after a ducks dork"

  Welcome to the Dollhouse

  Slingblade

  Steel Magnolias

  Terms of Endearment

  All About Eve

  Star Wars (first three)