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  Never, Ever Believe A Thing They Tell You.

  by Englishman in

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  my son and daughter from my previous marriage have just been kicked in the teeth by witness teaching.

  they have never ever been jws, which makes it worse imo.. they have just been dumped by their jw grandfather, dumped by their uncle, dumped by their aunt.

  when my dfd ex-wife lost her mother a couple of years back, her jw sisters and brother decided to put a stop to my exs alienation.

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  Andee

  Just popped on after writing an email to a NON JW friend and what does Wizzy inform me of??

  My life revolves around the JW's. That's right, Wizzy, it does. You outted me, babe! It fits in between: Getting my children off to school, household duties, helping kids with homework, lunch with NON JW friends, NON JW family gatherings, going to soccer games, crocheting, reading, making lunches, making dinner, etc.

  BTW Wizzy. My JW relatives CONTACTED ME and my other non JW family. Some even continue to email me even though I do not respond to them, got it?

  Have a nice day, Wizzy. You lil cutie pie!

  Andee

  P.S. Ya'll be careful now! I don't want ya to get a nose bleed being up so high above all of us.
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  Never, Ever Believe A Thing They Tell You.

  by Englishman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my son and daughter from my previous marriage have just been kicked in the teeth by witness teaching.

  they have never ever been jws, which makes it worse imo.. they have just been dumped by their jw grandfather, dumped by their uncle, dumped by their aunt.

  when my dfd ex-wife lost her mother a couple of years back, her jw sisters and brother decided to put a stop to my exs alienation.

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  Andee

  Hey Wiz,

  I do not rant about the WTS in front of my kids, K?

  I quietly try to explain our family situation and my JW relatives beliefs. As nutty as I think some of those beliefs are. I am willing to bet that is how most people on this board handle this type of situation.

  We come HERE to rant, K?

  I do not single out any group of people to denegrate in front of my kids, K?

  If people don't want to celebrate Xmas because they think is is over-commercialized, that is up to them. K? It's a choice. K? I don't care. K? WTS doesn't make it a choice. K? I don't think one should lose their family over it. K?

  Oh, brother! You dragged out the "Brady Bunch" line. Because people want their family to at least talk and be civil to one another, we want the "Brady Bunch" pipe dream. Geez, can you feel the change of generations? I can remember when it was "everyone wants Leave it to Beaver". Well, at least then, Ward ENJOYED kissing June.

  Anyway, I'm ohh so sorry if I'm BORING you, Wiz.

  Oh, just one more thing, Wiz, sweetie, baby, honey.

  MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR! K?

  Andee
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  Never, Ever Believe A Thing They Tell You.

  by Englishman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my son and daughter from my previous marriage have just been kicked in the teeth by witness teaching.

  they have never ever been jws, which makes it worse imo.. they have just been dumped by their jw grandfather, dumped by their uncle, dumped by their aunt.

  when my dfd ex-wife lost her mother a couple of years back, her jw sisters and brother decided to put a stop to my exs alienation.

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  Andee

  Hi E-man,

  The situation you have described is close to what I witnessed in my own family.

  My grandmother (Mom's mom) was a devout JW. She was the one that got the whole ball rolling with this insideous cult back in 1949. She had five children. Out of these children, my Uncle (his wife and kids)and one Aunt (husband and 7 kids) are active JW's.

  I have so many sad stories of shunning. My Mom and my Aunt (Mom's younger sister). When I was a baby, my Dad was DF'd. My Mom's family shunned both of them. Since my Mom stopped going to meetings after what happened to my Dad. She was only a teenager, having married my
  Dad at 14. Five years later Dad was reinstated, so the JW family was in contact again.

  Then, my Aunt was Df'd in 1965. She was 18. She wasn't shunned at the time, as far as I know. Even though both my Mom (inactive) and my Aunt (Df'd) didn't go to meetings, my JW family still "associated" with them. Granted, the all families weren't close, they at least would see each other on occasion.

  So, this goes on until 1981. A big family get together is planned.
  Right before it is suppose to happen (it was planned by my JW cousin)
  the whole thing was cancelled. Why? Because of my Aunt's Df'ing in 1965! Some article in the WT. My JW relatives cannot associate with her, and thrown in for good measure, my Mother either. My Aunt, a very sweet, gentle woman, was devastated.

  So, almost 20 years ago by. Then, my Mom is contacted by her JW brother. He is working on a family picture project and would like my Mom to participate. Nothing was said about the last 20 years or the shunning. Just pretend that everything is normal. Then, the emails started. I start getting email from various JW relatives. Some of cousins that I last saw when I was a child. Actually, it has been great hearing from them. My Uncle has even acknowledged the hurt my Mom and Aunt feel.

  Then there is my very devout Aunt (Mom's older sister). She sends me all these friendly little emails like we just had coffee last week. When confronted with all the pain she caused in the name of Jehovah, she just shuts down, says she wants to keep things "positive". Let's just pretend the last 20 years didn't happen.

  Anyway, there has been talk of reunions, etc from my JW relatives. My Df'd Aunt has just written them off. She wants nothing to do with them. She has a loving husband and two daughters. She's happy and doesn't want them to sully it. My Mom is a bit more open, but she's skeptical. Afraid that door will slammed in her face again. I don't blame her.

  So, at this point, us "worldly" part of the family are pretty happy.
  The JWs can just PROVE their sincerity.

  Andee
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  first time post

  by zanex in

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  wow...i am floored...it has been damn good to read some of the posts..i never thought there were so many people with the same prob's.

  been df'd for a few years and still have an elder dad and a very devout mom who constantly make me feel like i am a "stain" if not for my "worldly" wife i dont think i wud be here to make this post...

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  Andee

  Hi Zanex,

  Welcome to our little corner of insanity.

  Kudos to your wife gettin ya to post!

  Andee
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  My father just beat my brother-

  by ashitaka in

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  one more topic.. my wife just called up to tell me that she was over my parents before a doctor's visit, chatting with my mother, when my crazed jw father threw my small 14 year old brother down the stairs and punched him for not wanting to study.. i've been beat, thrown down stairs, had potted plants thrown at me, chased around the house, and such, for not wanting to do the family study.. this is what the "truth" does to people, all you loyal jw's....take note...... (i'm so angry i'm shaking).

  ashi.

  p.s-my father said he was leaving my mother--oh god, pretty please, you motherf**ker.

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  Andee

  Mommy,

  And it appears his little spat is over for tonight.

  When is throwing a 14 year old boy down stairs, then punched afterwards "a little spat"?

  Making me wonder what your "training" was?
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  My father just beat my brother-

  by ashitaka in

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  one more topic.. my wife just called up to tell me that she was over my parents before a doctor's visit, chatting with my mother, when my crazed jw father threw my small 14 year old brother down the stairs and punched him for not wanting to study.. i've been beat, thrown down stairs, had potted plants thrown at me, chased around the house, and such, for not wanting to do the family study.. this is what the "truth" does to people, all you loyal jw's....take note...... (i'm so angry i'm shaking).

  ashi.

  p.s-my father said he was leaving my mother--oh god, pretty please, you motherf**ker.

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  Andee

  With all due respect to everyone,

  This is a case of CHILD ABUSE. That is what needs to be dealt with.
  IMO, Ashi's Mother is just as guilty. She allows that kind of abuse to be metted out to her children. I don't care what he has done to her, she is an adult. She obviously has some serious emotional problems. I have no idea what the dynamics of their marriage, and at this point, I couldn't care less. How could she just allow her child being thrown down the stairs??? He could have died! Then she goes and works with the guy?? And I don't care about any lame "battered woman" excuse.

  That boy needs to be removed from that home! In california, it takes someone with police powers to do that. If Ashi goes to the police, he needs to make them aware of his record and that he has the potential of extreme violence. His wife was a witness to the violence. The police and the courts (unless they are complete morons) understand that even an abused child's first loyalty are to the parents.

  I know it is going to be gut wrenching. However, not so gut wrenching than to be at this kids funeral.

  Ashi, my thoughts are with you.

  Andee
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  My father just beat my brother-

  by ashitaka in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  one more topic.. my wife just called up to tell me that she was over my parents before a doctor's visit, chatting with my mother, when my crazed jw father threw my small 14 year old brother down the stairs and punched him for not wanting to study.. i've been beat, thrown down stairs, had potted plants thrown at me, chased around the house, and such, for not wanting to do the family study.. this is what the "truth" does to people, all you loyal jw's....take note...... (i'm so angry i'm shaking).

  ashi.

  p.s-my father said he was leaving my mother--oh god, pretty please, you motherf**ker.

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  Andee

  Ashi,

  It may be against your Mother's wishes to have him (any other kids?)
  from the home, but you know, this is about YOUR BROTHER. Your Mother obivously cannot protect him, SO DO WHAT IS IN HIS BEST INTERESTS. Try to get him the heck out of there!

  I don't know what the laws are in your state, PLEASE contact the authorities, NOW.

  Andee
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  My father just beat my brother-

  by ashitaka in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  one more topic.. my wife just called up to tell me that she was over my parents before a doctor's visit, chatting with my mother, when my crazed jw father threw my small 14 year old brother down the stairs and punched him for not wanting to study.. i've been beat, thrown down stairs, had potted plants thrown at me, chased around the house, and such, for not wanting to do the family study.. this is what the "truth" does to people, all you loyal jw's....take note...... (i'm so angry i'm shaking).

  ashi.

  p.s-my father said he was leaving my mother--oh god, pretty please, you motherf**ker.

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  Andee

  Given any thought to calling the authorities?

  This, clearly, is child abuse.

  Andee
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  too tired to fight

  by Bridgette in

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  dear friends,.

  i will try not to make this a maudlin goodbye.

  well, maybe a tad maudlin, but not goodbye .

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  Andee

  Bridgette,

  I have always enjoyed reading your posts. I understand completely why you need this time away. Enjoy the rest of the holidays and the growing of that little one inside of you.

  Take care,

  Andee
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  I FEEL SO USED

  by Serena in

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  i have been "fooling around" with brother charlie for a couple months.

  going to his apartment and spending the night with him.

  i am so in love with him, i would do anything for him, anything at all.

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  Andee

  YoYoMama,

  If Jehovah hates fornication so much, ya think he would have made us incapable of the act.

  Oh yeah.......that would make too much sense to do that.

  Serena,

  Still being used, huh? I am also curious as to your age.

  Andee