Please take my statement about the Bible in conctext. It is not intended to assert or imply that the the Bible is or isnt "God's Word". It is in response to the poster that uses the Bible to show that the Bible says that men claimed received prophecies from God. The same Bible also records other information about God's communication. I am only showing this too.
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Does God communicate with you?
by Fisherman ina bible verse says " ..the one planting the ear can he not listen?
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How do other religions compare with Jw?
by Fisherman inas a jw i saw in other religions, ritualism, insignificant ceremoniies, unecessary restrictions, erroneous bible interpretations, doctrines and teachings, and hateful conspiracy with governments to kill or imprison or stop individual jws, or the jw movement.
today, i respect what people belive but what i think is wrong is religion in the business of killing people or advocating the killing or harming or infringing on people.
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Lets make sure we see this clearly. Jws are not held at gunpoint to choose not to buy polital cards or to remain jws. The fault lies not with jws or anyone that wishes to believe in what he likes, but in the persecutors and the opressors that do the killing and harming. It seems that jws are being blamed for being denied freedom.
Wts does not disclose all of the facts, but on his prima facie argument I also don't see the need to be killed or tortured when other reasonable options are available, but only to avoid harm. On the other hand, it is an outrage for a person to be forced to compromise.
I think that the perspectives and arguments posted by parakeet and abandoned are valuable contributions to the objective comparison between jws and other religions because they note that leadership policy or interpretation resulted in deaths and harm to its memebers. Without all of the fact or a wts defense on this though, it seems to me that those policies were in error and in pains me that those bros had to suffer so much. I yield to the subsatnce of what these posters have said, even with this concession however, do not confuse resulting harm to jws by their persecutors as a consequence of their choices and the involvement or direct partcipation in physical harm to others by religions.
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How do other religions compare with Jw?
by Fisherman inas a jw i saw in other religions, ritualism, insignificant ceremoniies, unecessary restrictions, erroneous bible interpretations, doctrines and teachings, and hateful conspiracy with governments to kill or imprison or stop individual jws, or the jw movement.
today, i respect what people belive but what i think is wrong is religion in the business of killing people or advocating the killing or harming or infringing on people.
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outrageous is a personal conclusion and burden shifts to prove the conclusion. Public info. If people would only do the work.
Usama is reputed to be a philanthropists and humanitarian, allegedly built schools hopitals etc.
Policy of jws is not to go around injuring people or caniving with gov to get other movenets stopped.
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How do other religions compare with Jw?
by Fisherman inas a jw i saw in other religions, ritualism, insignificant ceremoniies, unecessary restrictions, erroneous bible interpretations, doctrines and teachings, and hateful conspiracy with governments to kill or imprison or stop individual jws, or the jw movement.
today, i respect what people belive but what i think is wrong is religion in the business of killing people or advocating the killing or harming or infringing on people.
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Abandoned, you did not mention the jw wwii martyrs in Germany. I have wondered if it was necessary for those bros to die. Now wt policy has changed as to voting. New light. They should have seen thing back then. I agree, it seems to me that was a mistake, yet in comarison to other religions I have never seen jws physically attack other religions or canive with governement. How much did you research?
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Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie
by Farkel init was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.
he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.
up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.
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Fisherman
Good point minimus. THe Society does not coverup sexual immorality as far as I know. Anyone would get exposed for that even JR.
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How do other religions compare with Jw?
by Fisherman inas a jw i saw in other religions, ritualism, insignificant ceremoniies, unecessary restrictions, erroneous bible interpretations, doctrines and teachings, and hateful conspiracy with governments to kill or imprison or stop individual jws, or the jw movement.
today, i respect what people belive but what i think is wrong is religion in the business of killing people or advocating the killing or harming or infringing on people.
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Jgnat, Welcome to this thread!
Well, I agree. Jws seem to be the same if compared to other religions with respects to gossip verbal attacks, and shunning. On the other hand, sticks and stones shall break my bones but words shall never harm me
Now regarding physical attacks and caniving with the goverment, I am sure if anyone wanted to they could get the sources and references them selves without any help and after thoroghly researching this matter objectivley they could come whatever conclusion they wished to on this.
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Who Will Be Celebrating Thanksgiving & XMas This Year???
by minimus infunny thing about jws----many celebrate thanksgiving but say they're only eating turkey with all the fixings by coincidence.
god made the food to be consumed everyday.
then you get witnesses who celebrate christmas the day before or after with all sorts of presents but they won't give it on the 25th because that day is pagan.
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Not me, It is a pagan holiday, but I will be eating turkey and cranberiies, stuffing, sweet taters with my family. I will also enjoy all the xmas goodies but I do not celebrate that holiday either.
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How do you feel about Tatoos?
by Fisherman ini feel very offended and distrurbed when i see people covered with tatoos.
some people have tatoos all over their bodies, even on their faces.
there are also tatoo programs on the tlc channel that children can watch without a forewarning before the show comes on.
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Are all posters here that favor tatoos ex jws? Doent seem to me that after having a jw mentality one can change towards tatoos. Sex I can understand. But how somene that has been a jw can feel that way about tatoos I havent a clue.
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As an Elder I believe JW's have the Truth
by JWFreak ini also believe in santa clause and that david beckham has a phd.
seriously though, i have only been here a short while but it has been more than enough to convince me to hand in my resignation.
i have telephoned our sec, and told him that i am stepping down.
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Fisherman
If you missed meetings, they will want to do delete you. No need to step.... But if you want to step down out of the clear blue sky, you are going to have to give reasons. How could you have preteded without being detected? What do you mean by have the truth?
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How do other religions compare with Jw?
by Fisherman inas a jw i saw in other religions, ritualism, insignificant ceremoniies, unecessary restrictions, erroneous bible interpretations, doctrines and teachings, and hateful conspiracy with governments to kill or imprison or stop individual jws, or the jw movement.
today, i respect what people belive but what i think is wrong is religion in the business of killing people or advocating the killing or harming or infringing on people.
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Fisherman
Something for you to research if mainstream religion has done those things. I have observed jws attacked and physivcally injured and assaulted by mainstream religion.