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  If she doesn't comply an orange jumpsuit is in her future

  by DJS in

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  scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.

  by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.

  updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..

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  Yeah, No
  

  Not because you say so.
  
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  If she doesn't comply an orange jumpsuit is in her future

  by DJS in

  1. social
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  scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.

  by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.

  updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..

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  We know because she said so, fisher person

  Washington (CNN)"The Supreme Court on Monday night denied an emergency application from a Kentucky clerk who has been refusing to issue marriage licenses because of her religious objections to same-sex marriage."
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  If she doesn't comply an orange jumpsuit is in her future

  by DJS in

  1. social
  2. current

  scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.

  by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.

  updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..

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  The state , either federal or local, has no obligation to allow her to not do her job based on her choice of religion.

  Sure they do. And sure they have. I do not know if it applies in this case though.
  
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  If she doesn't comply an orange jumpsuit is in her future

  by DJS in

  1. social
  2. current

  scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.

  by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.

  updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..

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  Jesus isn't the reason for her treason. It's hate.

  How do you know if this is true? What is known is that she did not do her job.

  In the US same sex marriages is the law of the land but so is is freedom of religion and freedom of expression. Just as gay people have rights under the law so do others. But should people be forced to approve of gay marriages? I think that people must recognize gay marriages because it is law. I wonder what would happen if a gay married couple attended KH? Would they and could they kick them out if they held hands, etc.

  In this particular case where this woman did not wish to issue the license, I do not think that she can claim freedom of religion, but I do not know for sure. She did not perform the marriage and she does not have to approve of it. It is the State that issues the license not her. She only does the paperwork. But if she has a problem with that, she could find another job that does not impose on her doing what she does not want to do. I would like to know how Marvin Shilmer sees this matter, but if religion is her reason or another valid reason, then must the State be forced to protect her rights and accommodate her someway so that she does not have to issue licenses to same sex marriages?
  
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  VA shooting suspect was raised a JW! He mentions it on his Twitter account

  by WingCommander in

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  anyone in the usa following this morning's shooting "on-air" live tv will know what i'm talking about.

  bryce williams (not real name, but on-air name) shot and killed 2 people on live television this morning in roanoke, va. he was wearing a go-pro camera, and uploaded his first-person video onto his social media accounts.

  i've seen his twitter feed (before it was taken down), and not very far down he mentions being raised a jw.

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  WT indoctrination does not inspire JW or anyone to kill. I also do not believe that the recent killings on the news by people lashing out are motivated by wanting infamy as those in the past such as the killing of JL or JFK. Today, the motive is simple, people are angry and they want payback. Although religion is used to inspire terrorism, the reason behind terrorism is hate of the US and similar countries.

  People that are thriving have to reason to lash out except to maintain their position.

  "Surely oppression maketh a wise man mad."
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  Ray Franz was an Idiot

  by vinman in

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  ray franz who gave us insight into the gb due to a crisis of conscience was an absolute moron, with absolutely no critical thinking skills whatsoever like all of us have.

  i mean, to have a conscience based on some magic man in the sky.. how stupid can you be?

  in search of christian freedom?

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  Ray Franz ................ was an absolute moron

  I strongly disagree.
  
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  VA shooting suspect was raised a JW! He mentions it on his Twitter account

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
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  anyone in the usa following this morning's shooting "on-air" live tv will know what i'm talking about.

  bryce williams (not real name, but on-air name) shot and killed 2 people on live television this morning in roanoke, va. he was wearing a go-pro camera, and uploaded his first-person video onto his social media accounts.

  i've seen his twitter feed (before it was taken down), and not very far down he mentions being raised a jw.

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  these people did not have mental health issues

  I agree. These are angry people lashing out. Agree, it is insane what they do, but they have their reason for their madness, same as terrorist do and same as nations that drop bombs and kill innocent people and Presidents and Dictators and Kings and Police that have tortured and massacred people--and they have gotten away with it. Is that mental illness? People get angry, people get outraged, people lash out, either individually or in groups--but is that mental illness? Will gun control help the problem? I think that maybe a little, but it depends on what that means. In cities that regulates guns, any criminal can get get guns, for example, in NYC, there is gun control , but armed robbery with all kinds of guns was rampant for decades. The only people unarmed were the law abiding citizens and the victims of the crimes. About a year ago, gun control did not stop a madman for shooting 2 PO sitting in their car and then killing himself. That killing seemed like retaliation to me for the innocent man that was killed accidentally by a PO. If the government wants to do gun control, it has to be like how the Cubans got rid of all the guns in their country. They told me that even the police did not have guns. However, if gun control means like they do in some US cities, it does not mean anything. Anyone that wants to commit a crime can get a gun and lash out or do what he wants. Drugs like Heroine and Cocaine and other "Schedule" substances are controlled, but people get tons of it.

  Should you blame the newspaper when they publish about abuse of power and oppression by some people in office, for example, a news article I read stated that some prosecutor in Texas was found guilty of malicious prosecution, putting a man in jail for about 20 years (not sure if it was 40.) Although he enjoys immunity, he was sentenced to about a day in jail. (I wonder if he survived. Did not read any more about it. But they probably put him in protective custody for the day.) But are the newspapers doing wrong in publishing and exposing injustice and abuse of power? Should they be blamed when people lash out?

  Regarding the lowering of violent crimes in the US to 50 percent, I think that is true reflecting armed robbery and drug killings, gangs, organized crime, and the such. The killings now are from inspired terrorism, and retaliation motivated killing sprees, and acts of vengeance. Is that mental illness? That is the Defense's theory.
  

  
  
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  Let’s Speculate!!!

  by John Aquila in

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  you know the organization is slowly going down.

  not as fast as we would wish, but nevertheless it is crumbling.

  five (5) year old child baptisms, smaller magazines, child sexual abuse exposed, smaller annual growth, no one wants to reach out, young ones leaving.

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  Will they still go door to door preaching?

  Since it is a legal right that had to be fought for and blood was shed for it, the wt will never abandon that right. There will always be some door to door preaching, unless, the law changes and the wts looses that right, then I do not think that WT will fight for it again. Anyway, 100 years of preaching all over the world just about covers it, in relation to generation hearing it and dying . Cannot see the door to door and preaching going any further than 2016. If they manage to keep going a couple of more years, 2020 is the limit. The WT stops in 2020.

  A lot of changes will happen in WT teaching if nothing happens in a year. The Warwick building project will keep everyone busy until 2017, but that is only in the US. I think that everyone believes that the GT will come within a couple of years.
  

  
  
  
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  Let’s Speculate!!!

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
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  you know the organization is slowly going down.

  not as fast as we would wish, but nevertheless it is crumbling.

  five (5) year old child baptisms, smaller magazines, child sexual abuse exposed, smaller annual growth, no one wants to reach out, young ones leaving.

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  What will the Watchtower look like BEFORE THE YEAR 2020?

  Something has to give within the next year or so. But if nothing happens:
  

  Will there still be a Governing Body?

  Another change in the meaning of FDS, but still a governing body will sit.
  

  Will they finally drop 1914?

  No, never, but the meaning will change. After 100 years of JC Parousia something has to show.
  

  Will the blood doctrine finally be dropped?

  It may change again.
  

  Will disfellowshipping be dropped?

  No.
  

  Will there still be Circuit Overseers, Elders, Pioneers?

  There will still be church appointees.
  

  Will there still be Judicial Committees?

  Yes, or some refined way of dealing will rule breakers and giving spiritual help.
  

  Will they still have conventions 3 times a year?

  No.
  

  How many meetings will they have a week?

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  Will they still go door to door preaching?

  Yes
  

  Will they drop the name; “Watchtower Bible and Tract Society?”

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  How many members will they have worldwide?

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  VA shooting suspect was raised a JW! He mentions it on his Twitter account

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  anyone in the usa following this morning's shooting "on-air" live tv will know what i'm talking about.

  bryce williams (not real name, but on-air name) shot and killed 2 people on live television this morning in roanoke, va. he was wearing a go-pro camera, and uploaded his first-person video onto his social media accounts.

  i've seen his twitter feed (before it was taken down), and not very far down he mentions being raised a jw.

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  Besides for sports, etc., The two reasons for owning a gun is to commit crimes and for protection. How can a person feel safe in their home without a firearm in case some nut breaks in in this day and age. Criminal paradise when citizens are unarmed. When a person wants to commit a crime with a gun, he will find an illegal one if they are outlawed.

  Problem is that risk of injury with guns in every house is greater than the chance of an occasional intruder. Same goes for carrying legal guns. More deaths if everyone had a legal gun. The risk is greater because there are more guns. Safer for law enforcement when everyone they encounter with a gun is a criminal. No problem to kill someone with a gun because they are criminal for having a gun to begin with.