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  Seen an Angel witnessing...

  by Aleph in

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  here in france we received instruction to stand back from the cart.. so you can see "angels" witnessing with a cart by its own, no one around, and no one cares, i stayed a while, did my shopping, and half an hour later the "poor angel" was still there on his own.... i guess wherever is the publisher, he s hard working counting his hours..

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  sir82

  Madam Curie,

  We'll see after the fat lady sings.
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  My Opinions on whats going on in WT land - Insider Information

  by thedepressedsoul in

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  first off, i'd like to state that i currently have "privileges" in the congregation and volunteer at bethel on and off throughout the year.

  that's as much information as i will currently give about myself.. starting off, i think something big is coming in the form of lawsuits and bad pr.

  they seem to be batting down the hatches in preparation for something the last few years and even more so the last few months.

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  "Insider information"

  Your donkey.

  For those of us who know, Warwick land was bought cheap enough and Warwick construction is cheap.Labor and design is the most expensive part of a building project relative to the cost of the land, and it is free. There is a push to complete Warwick; WT wants to get out of Kings county ASAP before all hell breaks loose, they want to direct the work from Warwick. The original plan was to complete the project by 2017, contingencies and obstacles are slowing things down. WT also has agreements with the buyers of their Sands property. True, they also believed this to be the case in the past, but WT is expecting something big to hit soon by 2017 and they want to be in Warwick when they believe it will.

  How do JW view these cutback changes the WT could do? Not bad. JW have come to their own personal conclusions that something big is going to hit so they are not concerned with cutbacks or stopped building projects, they see this in relation to world catastrophe and not WT failure. How will individual Bethelites take it if they are sent home? Not good. I suppose a lot will be angry or disappointed. (why me? attitude)

  But do you really think that JWs would be so disappointed about WT expansions, projects, building, KHs, etc, and another 100 years of preaching and invisible rulership? Everyone wants system destruction not construction, and if something bigger than 1914 realized, hopes for the imminent end would be livened ; It is exciting not disappointing.

  Financial problems continued to escalate every year after donation arrangement for literature, assembly food and parking, etc were mandated. But materials were cheap enough, the economy was ok, and besides that, the end would come by the generation limit around the corner-back then. It was lifesaving to get the literature out and for the work to continue even as a personal expense But we live in a world today where people do not go to the library much and buying of internet has bankrupted or is crippling store front businesses. And information about God and the future and the Bible does not depend on a knock on the door or JW fascinating literature; That does not contribute to ww donations.

  Donations is what helps finance the WT. The economy is in crisis. And IT IS NOT GROWING. The WT needs to extremely curtail all unnecessary spending and save as much voluntary donations, (calling to everyone that wants to voluntarily support the WT and giving them a last opportunity to do so now) to prepare for the hard times ahead so that they have the assets to spend when needed.

  Will the lawsuits cripple the WTS financially? Depends on how many and how much. People are crippled and killed each year including children because of negligence from the government and private entities;They don't pay much and they have been known to pass laws to limit the amount of money that gov will pay out. Private entities will declare bankruptcy and insurances will not pay much either. WT has enemies that want to try to put the WT out of business and that is what is behind the WT billion dollar lawsuits; And forcing the WT to pay many millions for such while the gov and private entities almost never have to pay so much. So it is really about using the legal system as a means to get at the WT.

  WT seems vulnerable because nothing ain't happened after 100 year " lifesaving" message, and there are a lot of angry people out there that want to get at the WT. I think that these lawsuits and RC, etc is going to backfire. WT wallpaper proclaims embarrassment of gov actions against WT in the past. Wt did not sue.

  Something has been unfolding for a while now and JW are eagerly waiting for that fat lady to sing now that Yogi Bera is dead, but they do not blame the WT.
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  WT lawsuits - Gog of Magog - Coalition of Nations - Courts of Law - Bankruptcy

  by truthseeker in

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  what if the society know it only has to lose one big case to lose a whole set of cases on precedent of the first case?.

  this means they will lose millions of dollars in lawsuits and settlements.

  which means their financial stability is under threat.

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  Fish
  Matt 24:48, 49

  Adjudication of slave not by his enemies nor haters of the WT nor the Courts -but by his MASTER at the time of his coming.

  " The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth." -Math 24:50,51 NIV

  "It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns." -Mathew 24:36 NIV
  
  
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  WT lawsuits - Gog of Magog - Coalition of Nations - Courts of Law - Bankruptcy

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
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  what if the society know it only has to lose one big case to lose a whole set of cases on precedent of the first case?.

  this means they will lose millions of dollars in lawsuits and settlements.

  which means their financial stability is under threat.

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  ...if the WTS is brought to its knees in the legal arena and tries to spin it as "Gog's final attack"

  Vid, WT has never stopped proclaiming that they trust in God. If God does not come to the defense of the WT, then yes, they can be defeated- unless they want to resort to political means, but they will not. According to jewish history, God abandoned the Jews to the Romans, their enemies, he never rescued them again as a nation, they had to resort to political allies and nuclear weapons because God does not fight for them.

  These lawsuits against the WT can backfire, and no one can predict what will happen -ultimately -in the legal arena, but the Wt has been the champions in the legal arena for a century. No other entity has won more cases in the US Supreme Court than the WT. They have made US history, UK and other nation have had to follow suit in dealing with WT cases- Until now, because GT has not realized, and doomsday, generation, 1914, is the crux of the WT and people are saying:"Where is your God, your teachings are falling apart." You are right, either God comes to the rescue or WT cannot continue with its "urgent" message. Something has to give soon.
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  Seen an Angel witnessing...

  by Aleph in

  1. watchtower
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  here in france we received instruction to stand back from the cart.. so you can see "angels" witnessing with a cart by its own, no one around, and no one cares, i stayed a while, did my shopping, and half an hour later the "poor angel" was still there on his own.... i guess wherever is the publisher, he s hard working counting his hours..

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  POI,

  I get carried away and go off topic. I meant to say that JW do see the angels and Jesus invisible presence. JW can try to put put forth a lot of effort to try to help, but salvation does not depend on human efforts.
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  Total Lunar eclipse soon

  by truthseeker100 in

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  there is to be a lunar eclipse very soon i'd be interested in your impressions.

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  Shine on Shine on Harvest moon. Orange color, not red.
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  Large Increase in Trolley Witnessing

  by The Searcher in

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  when the org implements its bethelite "genocide" and demotes many members of the "worldwide order of special full-time servants of jehovahs witnesses" into lowly regular pioneers, many more trollies will have to be found in order for such ones to rack up their required monthly hours.. how many are actually going to be shocked by this into waking up?

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  Many people want to talk when drawn to the cart.
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  Seen an Angel witnessing...

  by Aleph in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here in france we received instruction to stand back from the cart.. so you can see "angels" witnessing with a cart by its own, no one around, and no one cares, i stayed a while, did my shopping, and half an hour later the "poor angel" was still there on his own.... i guess wherever is the publisher, he s hard working counting his hours..

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  Mercy and compassion are personal qualities, they do not have time limits.

  Measure your philosophy with the Bible not with my posts.
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  Seen an Angel witnessing...

  by Aleph in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here in france we received instruction to stand back from the cart.. so you can see "angels" witnessing with a cart by its own, no one around, and no one cares, i stayed a while, did my shopping, and half an hour later the "poor angel" was still there on his own.... i guess wherever is the publisher, he s hard working counting his hours..

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  Bible says that fighters will not be shown mercy. After attacking God's people, they have shown to be God's enemies and having been given every every opportunity previously to support the kingdom they instead choose to kill God's friends, and when God comes to defend his friends, any enemy wielding weapon against God's friends will be exterminated. Good riddance to Amalek. It is a warning from God. If you choose to defy the warning, do not expect mercy. Mercy is extended now. Last chance.
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  Seen an Angel witnessing...

  by Aleph in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here in france we received instruction to stand back from the cart.. so you can see "angels" witnessing with a cart by its own, no one around, and no one cares, i stayed a while, did my shopping, and half an hour later the "poor angel" was still there on his own.... i guess wherever is the publisher, he s hard working counting his hours..

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  "No one comes to me unless the Father draws him." "The kingdom of God is in your midsts." They couldn't even see him.... "...when the son of man is revealed.."

  But God is merciful "He does not want anyone to be destroyed, but wants all to repent." With God all things are possible. If you WANT it. But an enemy will not be given mercy.