Posts by Fisherman

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JW Video Armageddon to occur before 2040

by Listener in

sorry i thought it was a new morning worship video but it is 6 months old and has already been discussed on here.. it is presented by gb helper k flodin and about this generation.

the delusion and hypocrisy runs deep.. he reminds the cult members not to speculate because they aren't supposed to know the day or the hour.

then he proceeds to speculate that armageddon will occur before 2040.. https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodprogramsevents/pub-jwbmw_201511_3_video.

Fisherman

speculate that Armageddon will occur before 2040.

Thanks L. For the link!

Using 1992 as a reference point limit (fwf died in that year.) anyone anointed should have been born no later than 1972. 1972+20=1992 (anyone claiming to be anointed should be at least age 20 for argument sake.) Therefore, 1972 +20 +60 = 2052 (lifespan of the youngest interlaping anointed using the death of fwf as a refernce, the interlaper being 20 at the time fwf died and adding 60 years to his age. Interlapper witll be 80 in 2052. A centrury and a half of invisible kingdom rule! But what 20 year old would dare to claim anointment at age 20 without an argument and all records are kept by wt and so 40 in 1990 is the limit. And 2040 is the gneration end with current teaching. But 2040 alludes to 2020 because it is an ironic number- 2020 vision. I have posted 2016-2017 is the expected limit.

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RUSSIA: Jehovah's Witnesses face possible liquidation

by AndersonsInfo in

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http://www.forum18.org/archive.php?article_id=2181.

24 may 2016. russia: jehovah's witnesses face possible liquidation.

by victoria arnold, forum 18. if prosecutors proceed with their threat to liquidate the jehovah's witness headquarters near st petersburg, thousands of local congregations across russia could also face prohibition of their activities and individuals could be vulnerable to criminal charges for expressing their beliefs, forum 18 notes.. the jehovah's witnesses' principal body in russia is under threat of dissolution as an "extremist" organisation after the deadline in an official warning from the general prosecutor's office expired on 10 may, forum 18 notes.

Fisherman

JW religion is just as extreme as any other religion, Jews, Moslems, and others have their rules and views too. THis would not be the first time that iconic religion was behind the gov against wt if this is the case now.

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The Ray Franz Saga

by snugglebunny in

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i'm just curious as to how it all happened.. to explain.

many years back, before ex-jw websites, i called on a local lady in order to design an extension to her already enormous house.

she was a young, voluptuous gal, married to a much older local business man who spared little expense in order to give his young wife whatever her heart desired.. we chatted for ages.

Fisherman

Fisherman: have you ever read Crisis of Conscience?

Like other apostate versions, cc merely presents the author's position, while wt literature also contains conclusions subject to error, the difference is that wt is guided by God's "unerring" Holy Spirit -so wt claims.

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The Ray Franz Saga

by snugglebunny in

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friends

i'm just curious as to how it all happened.. to explain.

many years back, before ex-jw websites, i called on a local lady in order to design an extension to her already enormous house.

she was a young, voluptuous gal, married to a much older local business man who spared little expense in order to give his young wife whatever her heart desired.. we chatted for ages.

Fisherman

RF was one of the younger members of the gb. At morning worship it seemed as if he was the one always doing the talking. Very gifted speaker and very popular, liked and very respected by young bethelites even in comparison to the older gb. NHK was having health problems and so in timing with that the different comittess were formed and his power was distributed to the committes,

Everyone was expecting 1975. Work hours were long and so was the work week and the comitment was for 4 years. !975 passed and there wee a lot of unhappy people that wanted to leave but could not because they signed uo for 4 years, so 1n 1976 the change was to 1 year and in May1976 all those unhappy counttry boys and Californians, etc packed up and went back home. Some stayed a year or so longer and then when nothing happened -or whaetver the reason-, they also went back home. In 1977 NHK died. (closed casket if I recall)

RF had his way of looking at things and had his on way of thinking on how things should be done different from powerful old timers (such AS) and RF would not go along. FF would be appointed as the next wt president. RF did not go along with majority and wanted to go in a different direction.

It is very easy just to tell someone to go along with flow it is different when it happens to you and then it is not so easy. Seems that RF got overpowered , go angry and the left.

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What about hermaphrodites?

by neat blue dog in

a recent post about transgender people made me think.

i think its obvious that transgenders and homosexuals are easily banned in jwdom because the people in question were clearly born with their respective sex organs.. however.

what about intersex people aka hermaphrodites?

Fisherman

They mistakenly thought the best thing to do was to raise him as a girl.

Very tragic story. It was on tv decades ago..

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the beautiful Towers hotel now for sale

by neat blue dog in

its a gorgeous building, and you should see the commercial they made for it.. http://21clarkstreet.com.

the commercial video, as well as the cool 360° vr views are available on the home page of.

https://www.watchtowerbrooklynrealestate.com.

Fisherman

Ahhh good times.
ctrwtf

What year was that?

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Did The Witnesses Predict the United Nations in Advance?

by TD in

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it's been reported on this forum that bethel speakers at this summer's conventions are asserting that the establishment of the united nations in 1945 was predicted in advance by the witnesses.

this is being presented as validation of the claim that the witnesses are god's one true organization directed by holy spirit.. .

the basis for this claim originates with a public address entitled, peace - can it last given by n.h. knorr at the new world theocratic assembly, on september 20 of 1942. .

Fisherman

WT's deceitful presentation of it's own history,

What you are saying is only your erroneous opinion- and you can believe if you like it.

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Another generation....

by joey jojo in

it has been 21 years since the 1995 article that pretty much buried the idea of the '1914 generation'.. remember those guys?

the ones born in 1914 that would still be alive when the end of the system arrived.. i'm glad i'm old enough to remember going from door to door, preaching this belief.

the reason i say that is because i have a lot of 'still in' jw friends and family.

Fisherman

UC, I hear you.

But you say 'Can you imagine the humiliation and defeat if wt looses?' But there was no humiliation and defeat, they just move on with a new understanding.

UC, 100+ years of doomsday preaching that the world is going to end has a limit. Either the God of JW must act or the wt movement will not last.

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Another generation....

by joey jojo in

it has been 21 years since the 1995 article that pretty much buried the idea of the '1914 generation'.. remember those guys?

the ones born in 1914 that would still be alive when the end of the system arrived.. i'm glad i'm old enough to remember going from door to door, preaching this belief.

the reason i say that is because i have a lot of 'still in' jw friends and family.

Fisherman

UC, as I pointed out to you in my previous post, it ain't about the watchtower, like your dad, myself and other JW and hopefully you and Prologos ,we hold God to his promise in the Bible, We don't blame the wt because it ain't happened. "Let your kingdom come." no?

UC holds the wt to its litterature, jw ask God to act, not blame the wt because he hasn't., it is his move now. not the wt. All featiured of the sign of 1914 including the preaching -whether or not the preaching was and intentional fulfilment of Bible prophesy -Math 26:54- have happened. Only thing that is missing is the disgusting thing. Jw have run out of dates. My heart goes out to you UC, maybe your father will rejoice if you live through it instead of him.

JW are all in- win or loose. Can you imagine the humiliation and defeat if wt looses? But if they if they win.......I do not think that jw enemies should expect any mercy from God -at least that is what the wt teaches.

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Did The Witnesses Predict the United Nations in Advance?

by TD in

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friends

it's been reported on this forum that bethel speakers at this summer's conventions are asserting that the establishment of the united nations in 1945 was predicted in advance by the witnesses.

this is being presented as validation of the claim that the witnesses are god's one true organization directed by holy spirit.. .

the basis for this claim originates with a public address entitled, peace - can it last given by n.h. knorr at the new world theocratic assembly, on september 20 of 1942. .

Fisherman

JR did serve Adolf Hitler with a letter making him know that (to paraphrase the letter) "your goose is cooked and so is your Third Reich's" It appears to me that in this case Jehovah made the word of his servant come true. -Isaiah 44:26