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  JW Video Armageddon to occur before 2040

  by Listener in

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  2. bible

  sorry i thought it was a new morning worship video but it is 6 months old and has already been discussed on here..  it is presented by gb helper k flodin and about this generation.

  the delusion and hypocrisy runs deep.. he reminds the cult members not to speculate because they aren't supposed to know the day or the hour.

  then he proceeds to speculate that armageddon will occur before 2040.. https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodprogramsevents/pub-jwbmw_201511_3_video.

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  Fisherman

  people haven't learned to leave dates alone.

  Is that your conclusion!
  

  (Daniel 4:25) . . .and seven times will pass over you, until you know . . . (Luke 21:23, 24) . . .. 24 And they will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive into all the nations; and Jerusalem will be trampled on by the nations until the appointed times of the nations are fulfilled. (Daniel 9:24-26) 24 “There are seventy weeks that have been determined upon your people and upon your holy city, in order to terminate the transgression, and to finish off sin, and to make atonement for error, and to bring in righteousness for times indefinite, and to imprint a seal upon vision and prophet, and to anoint the Holy of Holies. 25 And you should know and have the insight [that] from the going forth of [the] word to restore and to rebuild Jerusalem until Mes·siʹah [the] Leader, there will be seven weeks, also sixty-two weeks. She will return and be actually rebuilt, with a public square and moat, but in the straits of the times. 26 “And after the sixty-two weeks Mes·siʹah will be cut off, with nothing for himself.. . .
  

  Time and time and time again, the BIble teaches not leave dates alone except about the exact time and date of "D day".
  
  
  
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  The Ray Franz Saga

  by snugglebunny in

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  2. friends

  i'm just curious as to how it all happened.. to explain.

  many years back, before ex-jw websites, i called on a local lady in order to design an extension to her already enormous house.

  she was a young, voluptuous gal, married to a much older local business man who spared little expense in order to give his young wife whatever her heart desired.. we chatted for ages.

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  Fisherman

  lot of errors.

  wt doctrine is on target. Timing was off
  
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  JW Video Armageddon to occur before 2040

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  sorry i thought it was a new morning worship video but it is 6 months old and has already been discussed on here..  it is presented by gb helper k flodin and about this generation.

  the delusion and hypocrisy runs deep.. he reminds the cult members not to speculate because they aren't supposed to know the day or the hour.

  then he proceeds to speculate that armageddon will occur before 2040.. https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodprogramsevents/pub-jwbmw_201511_3_video.

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  Fisherman

  speculate that Armageddon will occur before 2040.

  Thanks L. For the link!

  Using 1992 as a reference point limit (fwf died in that year.) anyone anointed should have been born no later than 1972. 1972+20=1992 (anyone claiming to be anointed should be at least age 20 for argument sake.) Therefore, 1972 +20 +60 = 2052 (lifespan of the youngest interlaping anointed using the death of fwf as a refernce, the interlaper being 20 at the time fwf died and adding 60 years to his age. Interlapper witll be 80 in 2052. A centrury and a half of invisible kingdom rule! But what 20 year old would dare to claim anointment at age 20 without an argument and all records are kept by wt and so 40 in 1990 is the limit. And 2040 is the gneration end with current teaching. But 2040 alludes to 2020 because it is an ironic  number- 2020 vision. I have posted 2016-2017 is the expected limit.
  
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  RUSSIA: Jehovah's Witnesses face possible liquidation

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  http://www.forum18.org/archive.php?article_id=2181.

  24 may 2016. russia: jehovah's witnesses face possible liquidation.

  by victoria arnold, forum 18. if prosecutors proceed with their threat to liquidate the jehovah's witness headquarters near st petersburg, thousands of local congregations across russia could also face prohibition of their activities and individuals could be vulnerable to criminal charges for expressing their beliefs, forum 18 notes.. the jehovah's witnesses' principal body in russia is under threat of dissolution as an "extremist" organisation after the deadline in an official warning from the general prosecutor's office expired on 10 may, forum 18 notes.

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  JW religion is just as extreme as any other religion, Jews, Moslems, and others have their rules and views too. THis would not be the first time that iconic religion was behind the gov against wt if this is the case now.
  
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  The Ray Franz Saga

  by snugglebunny in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm just curious as to how it all happened.. to explain.

  many years back, before ex-jw websites, i called on a local lady in order to design an extension to her already enormous house.

  she was a young, voluptuous gal, married to a much older local business man who spared little expense in order to give his young wife whatever her heart desired.. we chatted for ages.

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  Fisherman: have you ever read Crisis of Conscience?

  Like other apostate versions, cc merely presents the author's position, while wt literature also contains conclusions subject to error, the difference is that wt is guided by God's "unerring" Holy Spirit -so wt claims.
  
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  The Ray Franz Saga

  by snugglebunny in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm just curious as to how it all happened.. to explain.

  many years back, before ex-jw websites, i called on a local lady in order to design an extension to her already enormous house.

  she was a young, voluptuous gal, married to a much older local business man who spared little expense in order to give his young wife whatever her heart desired.. we chatted for ages.

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  Fisherman

  RF was one of the younger members of the gb. At morning worship it seemed as if he was the one always doing the talking. Very gifted speaker and very popular, liked and very respected by young bethelites even in comparison to the older gb. NHK was having health problems and so in timing with that the different comittess were formed and his power was distributed to the committes,

  Everyone was expecting 1975. Work hours were long and so was the work week and the comitment was for 4 years. !975 passed and there wee a lot of unhappy people that wanted to leave but could not because they signed uo for 4 years, so 1n 1976 the change was to 1 year and in May1976 all those unhappy counttry boys and Californians, etc packed up and went back home. Some stayed a year or so longer and then when nothing happened -or whaetver the reason-, they also went back home. In 1977 NHK died. (closed casket if I recall)

  RF had his way of looking at things and had his on way of thinking on how things should be done different from powerful old timers (such AS) and RF would not go along. FF would be appointed as the next wt president. RF did not go along with majority and wanted to go in a different direction.

  It is very easy just to tell someone to go along with flow it is different when it happens to you and then it is not so easy. Seems that RF got overpowered , go angry and the left.
  
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  What about hermaphrodites?

  by neat blue dog in

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  a recent post about transgender people made me think.

  i think its obvious that transgenders and homosexuals are easily banned in jwdom because the people in question were clearly born with their respective sex organs.. however.

  what about intersex people aka hermaphrodites?

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  They mistakenly thought the best thing to do was to raise him as a girl.

  Very tragic story. It was on tv decades ago..

  
  
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  the beautiful Towers hotel now for sale

  by neat blue dog in

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  2. beliefs

  its a gorgeous building, and you should see the commercial they made for it.. http://21clarkstreet.com.

  the commercial video, as well as the cool 360° vr views are available on the home page of.

  https://www.watchtowerbrooklynrealestate.com.

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  Fisherman

  Ahhh good times.

  ctrwtf

  What year was that?
  
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  Did The Witnesses Predict the United Nations in Advance?

  by TD in

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  2. friends

  it's been reported on this forum that bethel speakers at this summer's conventions are asserting that the establishment of the united nations in 1945 was predicted in advance by the witnesses.

  this is being presented as validation of the claim that the witnesses are god's one true organization directed by holy spirit.. .

  the basis for this claim originates with a public address entitled, peace - can it last given by n.h. knorr at the new world theocratic assembly, on september 20 of 1942. .

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  WT's deceitful presentation of it's own history,

  What you are saying is only your erroneous opinion- and you can believe if you like it.
  
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  Another generation....

  by joey jojo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it has been 21 years since the 1995 article that pretty much buried the idea of the '1914 generation'.. remember those guys?

  the ones born in 1914 that would still be alive when the end of the system arrived.. i'm glad i'm old enough to remember going from door to door, preaching this belief.

  the reason i say that is because i have a lot of 'still in' jw friends and family.

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  UC, I hear you.

  But you say 'Can you imagine the humiliation and defeat if wt looses?' But there was no humiliation and defeat, they just move on with a new understanding.

  UC, 100+ years of doomsday preaching that the world is going to end has a limit. Either the God of JW must act or the wt movement will not last.