i am going to engage on a trip to the past and share with you some of the matters that marked the beginning of the jws persecution in cuba.
you will be surprised that the pattern that was followed is very similar to what happened in other dictatorial countries.. in the cuban case, i am going to surprise you and tell you that like what happened with hitler; the wt was partially responsible for their clash and confrontation with the cuban government.
during the early 60s the revolution was fighting for survival and they were willing and ready to demolish any perceived enemy to their cause.. a prime example was their war against the catholic church that was the most influential religious entity in the country; it took the supreme leader only a few public discourses to send the vast majority of clergy packing and back to their country, in this case spain.. the jehovah’s witnesses were an insignificant minority but they over estimated their importance and displayed a belligerent attitude, it was known that this was a us based religion and an easy target to connect them with the cia.
Hecce, don't forget to keep posting stuff about JW and Cuba. Also, I sincerely enjoy our dialogue. It is my opinion that you are sincere. There is no cynicism or insidious remarks or statements in any of your posts to me on this thread. It is also my opinion that you have excellent writing skills; also, your respectful tact in your response when challenged garnishes your person. Thank you.
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i am going to engage on a trip to the past and share with you some of the matters that marked the beginning of the jws persecution in cuba.
you will be surprised that the pattern that was followed is very similar to what happened in other dictatorial countries.. in the cuban case, i am going to surprise you and tell you that like what happened with hitler; the wt was partially responsible for their clash and confrontation with the cuban government.
during the early 60s the revolution was fighting for survival and they were willing and ready to demolish any perceived enemy to their cause.. a prime example was their war against the catholic church that was the most influential religious entity in the country; it took the supreme leader only a few public discourses to send the vast majority of clergy packing and back to their country, in this case spain.. the jehovah’s witnesses were an insignificant minority but they over estimated their importance and displayed a belligerent attitude, it was known that this was a us based religion and an easy target to connect them with the cia.
I googled Cuba traditions and got this facebook link.
https://www.facebook.com/CubaHistoriaYTradiciones/videos/538183642864395/
what was wt view on anti venom in old days, considering it was made from blood.
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Marvin Shilmer usually comes in on blood topics. I have not seen any of his post in months, off topic but has anyone heard of him lately? Is he ok?
i am going to engage on a trip to the past and share with you some of the matters that marked the beginning of the jws persecution in cuba.
you will be surprised that the pattern that was followed is very similar to what happened in other dictatorial countries.. in the cuban case, i am going to surprise you and tell you that like what happened with hitler; the wt was partially responsible for their clash and confrontation with the cuban government.
during the early 60s the revolution was fighting for survival and they were willing and ready to demolish any perceived enemy to their cause.. a prime example was their war against the catholic church that was the most influential religious entity in the country; it took the supreme leader only a few public discourses to send the vast majority of clergy packing and back to their country, in this case spain.. the jehovah’s witnesses were an insignificant minority but they over estimated their importance and displayed a belligerent attitude, it was known that this was a us based religion and an easy target to connect them with the cia.
Hecce, Interesting information about the "boatlift" you mention. I have heard Cubans ask other Cubans: Are you from Mariel, meaning it all in jest and laughter because not all Mariels are from the "scarface" category. And in speaking with Cubans i have also learned that they refer to people as the chinese, the black, the arab... but in Cuban language the Spanish words that describe the race of a person is not offensive and referring to a person by his race, is not offensive or hateful and in fact unlike English there are no hate words used to refer to a person because of his race, at most humor but not mockery. Cubans make fun of everything, even themselves but with no offense meant or allusion to something debasing.
Many years ago I remember a lot of elderly Chinese Cubans, probably off the boatlift you mention and it was so funny ( in an interesting way ) to hear someone chinese speaking with an unmistakable Cuban accent.
In my previous post I referred to Guajiros as gullible, but I did not mean that intellectually, I have never ever seen or heard of a Cuban who is "bobo," they are wide awake people and you you can't pull the wool over their eyes, except that the guajiros were very trusting and good hearted -which is a virtue to me and not a flaw, and gullible regarding fake miracles and visons of virgins and stuff like that (that is what I meant) and although many barely could read or write, they were not bobos by any means. A Cuban to rival for US President, that is some accomplishment. No GB Cubans. but hey, the Germans always had a foothold on FDS.
What a coincidence that since responding to this post I have been talking to quite a few Cubans, there are very few where I live, but anyway, I was just told that the Cuban that ran for office, I think Diaz or something, was related somehow to FC.
I heard that the prior to FC, Blacks in Cuba ( or African Cubans) were never hated or despised by the other Cubans like the African Americans in the US were viewed. To call someone black in Cuban slang is an affectionate term.
Prior to FC what is the truth about the Black Cubans, from someone that knows firsthand?
i am going to engage on a trip to the past and share with you some of the matters that marked the beginning of the jws persecution in cuba.
you will be surprised that the pattern that was followed is very similar to what happened in other dictatorial countries.. in the cuban case, i am going to surprise you and tell you that like what happened with hitler; the wt was partially responsible for their clash and confrontation with the cuban government.
during the early 60s the revolution was fighting for survival and they were willing and ready to demolish any perceived enemy to their cause.. a prime example was their war against the catholic church that was the most influential religious entity in the country; it took the supreme leader only a few public discourses to send the vast majority of clergy packing and back to their country, in this case spain.. the jehovah’s witnesses were an insignificant minority but they over estimated their importance and displayed a belligerent attitude, it was known that this was a us based religion and an easy target to connect them with the cia.
I was just speaking with a Cuban gentleman some few minutes ago who said he went to Havana University and left in 1959 just prior to the FC victory. I told him that he should be proud of his Cuban heritage but he said that the Mariel people had given Cubans a bad reputation in the US and that now Cubans as a group in the US, are not viewed with the same respect they had.
the wt has promoted bloodless surgery as a viable (and better) alternative to surgery with blood transfusions.. i have found a medical study that has been used to back up these "evidence based" claims.
the title of the article is lessons learned from the outcome of bloodless emergency.
these mostly indigent patients died of peritonitis becauseof delays in payment for antibiotics.
Don't worry about the copyright stuff........
I know, and I did not mean to imply that you did that or that I suspect it I enjoy reading the information and again, valuable and appreciated in substance.
i am going to engage on a trip to the past and share with you some of the matters that marked the beginning of the jws persecution in cuba.
you will be surprised that the pattern that was followed is very similar to what happened in other dictatorial countries.. in the cuban case, i am going to surprise you and tell you that like what happened with hitler; the wt was partially responsible for their clash and confrontation with the cuban government.
during the early 60s the revolution was fighting for survival and they were willing and ready to demolish any perceived enemy to their cause.. a prime example was their war against the catholic church that was the most influential religious entity in the country; it took the supreme leader only a few public discourses to send the vast majority of clergy packing and back to their country, in this case spain.. the jehovah’s witnesses were an insignificant minority but they over estimated their importance and displayed a belligerent attitude, it was known that this was a us based religion and an easy target to connect them with the cia.
Hecce, thanks for informing us of what actually happened and what JW experienced. What part of the Island where you with?
the wt has promoted bloodless surgery as a viable (and better) alternative to surgery with blood transfusions.. i have found a medical study that has been used to back up these "evidence based" claims.
the title of the article is lessons learned from the outcome of bloodless emergency.
these mostly indigent patients died of peritonitis becauseof delays in payment for antibiotics.
OC, thanks for the wealth of information that you contribute-with this disclaimer: I do not endorse or encourage posting things that may violate copyright.
i often comment in threads that interest me on this forum.
moreover, some of you may know that i study the history of early christianity.
i once wrote an extensive comment on the historicity of jesus' existence in one of the threads.
Even from a JW position, I always credited MT for helping people but the posted vids show a different picture of MT as someone who idolized poverty, sickness and death as blessings and used such people to get fame, money and to promote her agenda but not to alleviate suffering from the lives of the afflicted people who's image she was using to benefit her personal agenda-at least that is what the posted vids seem to show me. It appears that her survival and fame and the survival of her cause and mission and calling depended on having the the image associated with death and suffering and she could only remain in business just as long as human suffering remained, like an angel of death is only needed for the purpose of the death, therefore, what the vids appear to show is that she did very little to fight poverty and to help the sick and dying in a material way, which was her business, and which is what money does and she made millions but did not use the money for that purpose..
i am going to engage on a trip to the past and share with you some of the matters that marked the beginning of the jws persecution in cuba.
you will be surprised that the pattern that was followed is very similar to what happened in other dictatorial countries.. in the cuban case, i am going to surprise you and tell you that like what happened with hitler; the wt was partially responsible for their clash and confrontation with the cuban government.
during the early 60s the revolution was fighting for survival and they were willing and ready to demolish any perceived enemy to their cause.. a prime example was their war against the catholic church that was the most influential religious entity in the country; it took the supreme leader only a few public discourses to send the vast majority of clergy packing and back to their country, in this case spain.. the jehovah’s witnesses were an insignificant minority but they over estimated their importance and displayed a belligerent attitude, it was known that this was a us based religion and an easy target to connect them with the cia.
Hecce, back in the 70's in NYC, Jewish mobs persecuted JW, tearing their eye out, maiming them, spiting , beatings, etc. and getting away with it too. Anywhere in the US JW could preach except in Jewish neighborhoods. Should the JW cave in, have they no God? In Cuba, did God abandon JW to be devoured by a wild beast like the early "christians"? It would not be the WT that would look bad but God whom the JW trust for salvation and survival.
It is not about the WT but about God who is trusted by JW.
