So sorry, you have even the geography wrong.
You are attempting to preach to the angels. Any county north of the Bronx is referred to and viewed as upstate - out of the city by city livers. I was not attempting to use the term upstate to conform to a definition or to what is considered upstate geographically speaking, but only to mean that the wt is moving up and out of" the city"from the 5 boroughs, up the state or upstate, that is all I meant, being very aware of NYS geography. The hillbillies living in hamilton refer to kingston which is in Ulster as downstate, imagine that.