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  Great Tribulation and Trump

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

  1. watchtower
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  please, let's discuss this subject without attacking one another.. it appears that trump has won a victory that no one expected.

  is it possible that trump may play a part in the great tribulation?.

  there are some who believe trump is one of the most unqualified of men to ever be elected president of the united states.

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  larger view.

  This is a moot discussion. The subject matter is the move to warwick. And not its geographic location. WT does not need the properties in downtown Brooklyn any longer. The end of an era.
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  Anyone else hear of this?

  by Tahoe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a jw family member informed me they are filling out an application to preach the truth in israel.

  interested ones in the congregation were asked to start saving now, as the cost of the flights would be their own responsibility.

  the time frame for this preaching work is for a couple of weeks in may/june 2017. the applications are to be turned in this sunday.

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  Fisherman

  In the US, decades ago, to think of one Jewish group (orthodoxy leadership was one of them) committed outrageous violent crimes against JW including their females (Imagine that!) Fiat from Bethel was to forgive and not to take legal action by individual JW harmed by the thugs. As it turned out, the leader of the group wound up murdered and the group was sterilized -just to mention part of the consequences of what the fate if a thug turns out to be.
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  Anyone else hear of this?

  by Tahoe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a jw family member informed me they are filling out an application to preach the truth in israel.

  interested ones in the congregation were asked to start saving now, as the cost of the flights would be their own responsibility.

  the time frame for this preaching work is for a couple of weeks in may/june 2017. the applications are to be turned in this sunday.

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  Fisherman

  It is not fair for the Jews that JW enjoy freedom of religion because they don't like it. Watch and see what trumps.
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  Great Tribulation and Trump

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  please, let's discuss this subject without attacking one another.. it appears that trump has won a victory that no one expected.

  is it possible that trump may play a part in the great tribulation?.

  there are some who believe trump is one of the most unqualified of men to ever be elected president of the united states.

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  Fisherman

  So sorry, you have even the geography wrong.

  You are attempting to preach to the angels. Any county north of the Bronx is referred to and viewed as upstate - out of the city by city livers. I was not attempting to use the term upstate to conform to a definition or to what is considered upstate geographically speaking, but only to mean that the wt is moving up and out of" the city"from the 5 boroughs, up the state or upstate, that is all I meant, being very aware of NYS geography. The hillbillies living in hamilton refer to kingston which is in Ulster as downstate, imagine that.
  
  
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  Why didn't God also reveal himself to the Canaanites just as he did to Moses in the burning bush?

  by deegee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  why didn't god also reveal himself to the canaanites just as he did to moses in the burning bush so that the massacre/genocide of the canaanites could have been avoided?.

  why didn't god also invite the native palestinians into his covenant, giving them the same laws he gave the israelites, and establish an egalitarian society where people of all races could live together in harmony?.

  instead, he ordered his people to invade and slaughter the natives, killing them to the last man, woman and child, specifically instructing them to show no mercy to anyone under any circumstances.

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  Why,

  Jewish tradition holds that God offered His Law to all of the Nations first and they rejected it and lastly to Israel - and they ran with it.
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  Great Tribulation and Trump

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  please, let's discuss this subject without attacking one another.. it appears that trump has won a victory that no one expected.

  is it possible that trump may play a part in the great tribulation?.

  there are some who believe trump is one of the most unqualified of men to ever be elected president of the united states.

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  Fisherman

  Columbia Heights

  Wt is not Alexander the Great - and it is their chess game not anyone else's.

  Did you not see the JW march up and down Court Street triumphantly every day in downtown Brooklyn for a century after trumping every Court battle in the US Supreme Court and in every Court in the USA more than anyone in the history of the US -all attempts to wipe out the wt failed. WT property towers over the Court buildings in the Heights and in Brooklyn -now it's Trumps' when they ain't there no more. Their victory is complete. All these recent Court cases are all anti/climax. But so what if nothing happen for another 300 years and wt only remains one of many religion?

  And so, what about their 100 year "prophetic"message and massive world wide preaching work reaching people living in 3 different centuries? And spanning the entire 20th Century that resulted in the forming of a new religion. That is what wt is all about and time is up after preaching for a 100 years that the world is about to end soon.

  So now that the time is up, corresponds with a move upstate. Let's see what happens.
  
  
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  Anyone else hear of this?

  by Tahoe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a jw family member informed me they are filling out an application to preach the truth in israel.

  interested ones in the congregation were asked to start saving now, as the cost of the flights would be their own responsibility.

  the time frame for this preaching work is for a couple of weeks in may/june 2017. the applications are to be turned in this sunday.

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  Fisherman

  Thanks for the link, Listener🙂
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  Great Tribulation and Trump

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  please, let's discuss this subject without attacking one another.. it appears that trump has won a victory that no one expected.

  is it possible that trump may play a part in the great tribulation?.

  there are some who believe trump is one of the most unqualified of men to ever be elected president of the united states.

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  Fisherman

  how can you really take that seriously, after all the debacles starting from 1:1 ?

  PL From your perspective.

  The wt movement has to play out. WT has moved their 'kings" from Kings County to Warwick. (that is a major move) the wtower has "castled" sort of speak. Let's see what happens next.
  
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  Anyone else hear of this?

  by Tahoe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a jw family member informed me they are filling out an application to preach the truth in israel.

  interested ones in the congregation were asked to start saving now, as the cost of the flights would be their own responsibility.

  the time frame for this preaching work is for a couple of weeks in may/june 2017. the applications are to be turned in this sunday.

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  Fisherman

  The Jews enjoy religious freedom in the US and have been migrating to the US to seek assylum on the basis of religious freedom and are accepted with open arms to practice their religion (same as everyone else) however they like under the protection of US laws and government.

  It would be a mockery of the Israeli government. The US and it's allies would be outraged if Israel did not protect US citizens and extend to them reciprocity of the same freedom of religion all Jews enjoy in the US and in other "free" nations -Not because they are (hated)JW but because they are Americans. If these rumors turn out to be true, I would be very interested to see how this religious card game plays out in "Israel", (the people having no Shomer but Caesar)and what trumps. It seems to me that Israel is going to allow Americans to practice their religion with open arms and so are the Jews in all neighborhood there.
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  Interfaith marriage

  by TheWonderofYou in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  5.mos “if you go to war against your enemies and jehovah your god defeats them for you and you take them captive,+ 11 and you see among the captives a beautiful woman and you are attracted to her and you want to take her as your wife, 12 you may bring her into your house.

  she should then shave her head, attend to her nails, 13 and remove the clothing of her captivity, and dwell in your house.

  she will weep for her father and her mother a whole month,+ and afterward you may have relations with her; you will become her husband and she will become your wife.

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  And don't forget Esther, Queen of the Nochri, having a Bible book named after her, the sacrificial pawn, who married a heathen king so that Agag could be exterminated and to manipulate the king in favor of the Jews. There was no Christian neutrality back then or Paul to counsel not to become unevenly yoked with unbelivers.